Advanced toolbar needs your support

classic Classic list List threaded Threaded
4 messages Options
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Advanced toolbar needs your support

Gerard Meijssen-3
Hoi,
Yesterday there were two blogposts about improving support for your language(s) in MediaWiki ... Parul wrote about technical bits and bobs and I wrote to ask you all to help her help you..

http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/02/mediawiki-seeks-to-support-your.html

Thanks,
     GerardM

_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Advanced toolbar needs your support

Shiju Alex
I have reservations about this enhancement.

Introducing  language specific icons for BOLD and ITALIC is not a good idea. It may make sense for the languages that use Latin script. According to me, these are some standardized icons accepted by all the language communities irrespective of the software applications that they use.

A normal computer literate is familiar with the current B and I icons available in all the word processors, text editors, and other editing tools. Most of them are aware about its use also. So changing that to a language specific icon may remove that edge.  We have the tool tips for an icon to convey its usage. I think that is more than enough. 

If we are changing the BOLD and ITALIC icons then we need to consider lot of other similar icons strike though.  Also this move may affect the cross wiki contributions also.

Shiju Alex





On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hoi,
Yesterday there were two blogposts about improving support for your language(s) in MediaWiki ... Parul wrote about technical bits and bobs and I wrote to ask you all to help her help you..

http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/02/mediawiki-seeks-to-support-your.html

Thanks,
     GerardM

_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l



_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Advanced toolbar needs your support

Gerard Meijssen-3
Hoi,
When the icons are internationalised, it means that for me, I am Dutch, I will find a V and a S. This suits me fine. When you have a character that is appropriate for this distinction, you use it for your language.

I post regularly on every Wikipedia and I do not use the local language of that project.

When you argue that YOU are aware / familiar with what is currently standard, it does not follow that all the readers for your project share this expertise.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 18 February 2010 16:50, Shiju Alex <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have reservations about this enhancement.

Introducing  language specific icons for BOLD and ITALIC is not a good idea. It may make sense for the languages that use Latin script. According to me, these are some standardized icons accepted by all the language communities irrespective of the software applications that they use.

A normal computer literate is familiar with the current B and I icons available in all the word processors, text editors, and other editing tools. Most of them are aware about its use also. So changing that to a language specific icon may remove that edge.  We have the tool tips for an icon to convey its usage. I think that is more than enough. 

If we are changing the BOLD and ITALIC icons then we need to consider lot of other similar icons strike though.  Also this move may affect the cross wiki contributions also.

Shiju Alex





On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hoi,
Yesterday there were two blogposts about improving support for your language(s) in MediaWiki ... Parul wrote about technical bits and bobs and I wrote to ask you all to help her help you..

http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/02/mediawiki-seeks-to-support-your.html

Thanks,
     GerardM

_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l



_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l



_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Reply | Threaded
Open this post in threaded view
|

Re: Advanced toolbar needs your support

Srikanth Ramakrishnan
I'll take a neutral stand on the issue. A simple vote or survey would suffice eh?

On 18 February 2010 21:39, Gerard Meijssen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hoi,
When the icons are internationalised, it means that for me, I am Dutch, I will find a V and a S. This suits me fine. When you have a character that is appropriate for this distinction, you use it for your language.

I post regularly on every Wikipedia and I do not use the local language of that project.

When you argue that YOU are aware / familiar with what is currently standard, it does not follow that all the readers for your project share this expertise.
Thanks,
      GerardM


On 18 February 2010 16:50, Shiju Alex <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have reservations about this enhancement.

Introducing  language specific icons for BOLD and ITALIC is not a good idea. It may make sense for the languages that use Latin script. According to me, these are some standardized icons accepted by all the language communities irrespective of the software applications that they use.

A normal computer literate is familiar with the current B and I icons available in all the word processors, text editors, and other editing tools. Most of them are aware about its use also. So changing that to a language specific icon may remove that edge.  We have the tool tips for an icon to convey its usage. I think that is more than enough. 

If we are changing the BOLD and ITALIC icons then we need to consider lot of other similar icons strike though.  Also this move may affect the cross wiki contributions also.

Shiju Alex





On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hoi,
Yesterday there were two blogposts about improving support for your language(s) in MediaWiki ... Parul wrote about technical bits and bobs and I wrote to ask you all to help her help you..

http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/02/mediawiki-seeks-to-support-your.html

Thanks,
     GerardM

_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l



_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l



_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l




--
Regards,

Your friend in time,

Cherian/Srikanth/R/

Wikipedia on YOUR MIND? Join us on Twitter....



_______________________________________________
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
[hidden email]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l