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Christmas lull

Tim Starling
http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/~leon/stats/reqstats/reqstats-monthly.png

The quiestest two days for Wikimedia were the 24th and 25th, straddling
week 51 and 52 on the graph. A lull in request rate has continued
throughout the week. We're still seeing significantly more traffic now
than we were in the middle of the year, but I have to wonder if it might
not have been better, in hindsight, to move the fundraising drive back a
couple of weeks.

-- Tim Starling

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Re: Christmas lull

James Hare
That's quite a dip!

Setting the fundraiser back a couple of weeks does not sound like a bad
idea. I have already thought that trying to get $1.5M by January 6 may be a
bit unrealistic, even -with- matching donors.

On 12/31/06, Tim Starling <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/~leon/stats/reqstats/reqstats-monthly.png
>
> The quiestest two days for Wikimedia were the 24th and 25th, straddling
> week 51 and 52 on the graph. A lull in request rate has continued
> throughout the week. We're still seeing significantly more traffic now
> than we were in the middle of the year, but I have to wonder if it might
> not have been better, in hindsight, to move the fundraising drive back a
> couple of weeks.
>
> -- Tim Starling
>
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Re: Christmas lull

Oldak
On 31/12/06, James Hare <[hidden email]> wrote:
> That's quite a dip!
>
> Setting the fundraiser back a couple of weeks does not sound like a bad
> idea. I have already thought that trying to get $1.5M by January 6 may be a
> bit unrealistic, even -with- matching donors.
>
> On 12/31/06, Tim Starling <[hidden email]> wrote:

Even without the dip, I don't think we would have made $1.5M by Jan 6.

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Re: Christmas lull

Florence Devouard-3
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Tim Starling wrote:

> http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/~leon/stats/reqstats/reqstats-monthly.png
>
> The quiestest two days for Wikimedia were the 24th and 25th, straddling
> week 51 and 52 on the graph. A lull in request rate has continued
> throughout the week. We're still seeing significantly more traffic now
> than we were in the middle of the year, but I have to wonder if it might
> not have been better, in hindsight, to move the fundraising drive back a
> couple of weeks.
>
> -- Tim Starling


If moving it "back" means "starting two weeks sooner", I must emphasize
we expected to start the fundraising *sooner* than it actually started.
We were delayed first by the audit (we absolutely wanted to be able to
show financial results and a general budget along with the fundraising
call).
We were also delayed one more week, because technical details were not
ready (if I remember well, crm was not entirely set up, site notice was
not done at all, no agreement made with matching donors, the very cool
fundraising website was not done yet, no press release had been written
etc...).
In short, we were not ready.
Two weeks sooner would have been cool, but we just *did not have* the
resources to make that happen. No use "wondering" if that would have
been better. It was just not possible.


If moving it "back" means "starting two weeks later", this was
envisionned and much discussed; On one hand we wanted to give donors the
opportunity to make a donation in year 2006, for tax deductibility
purposes. On the other hand, the cash available was getting low. So, we
decided to move on anyway.


As for the realistic amount... let us be realistic. We have two main
options.
Either we give no goals. People see the money flow in, and are
reassured. They think "oh, that's cool, they have enough money and we
will not see any fundraising before a long time".
And on our side, we despair in silence. Because we know we will proceed
with a strict economy of sort.

Or we give a goal. Or hint there is a goal. And perhaps reach it,
perhaps do not reach it.
If we do not reach, it is kinda easy to say "this goal were irrealistic,
how stupid it was to set up such a goal".


 From my point of view, I prefer you to think we are irrealistic, but to
realise that if we do not have enough money, then we will not have
enough money to function properly. That may mean delay to purchase
servers (hence, poor service to readers and editors). That may mean less
developers (hence, no development of much needed features). That may
mean less legal support (hence, additional delay when you are waiting
for a contractual agreement to publish a DVD, or no help if you are a
chapter and want support to retrieve a cybersquatted domain). That may
mean no big meeting to work on the future of mediawiki. That may mean
letting people abuse our trademarks, because we have no mean to go after
abusers.


Well, I prefer that we set up a goal that appears irrealistic, but which
is nevertheless what we need. If we fail that goal, at least, I can
explain why the Foundation will not pay a developer to work on
reviewed-versions, or why the Foundation will not pay the travel of
people to go to the next chapter meeting. These are examples. We can set
up the priorities, and only fund the priorities. With much regrets for
the other cool things we could do :-)

Ant

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Re: Christmas lull

David Gerard-2
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On 31/12/06, James Hare <[hidden email]> wrote:

> That's quite a dip!

> > http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/~leon/stats/reqstats/reqstats-monthly.png


Is it reflected in previous years, normalising for trend?


- d.
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Re: Christmas lull

Gerard Meijssen-3
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Hoi,
Anthere may I congratulate you and in you all of us who feel ourselves to be
part of the Wikimedia Foundation with a great 2006. I hope the progress that
we have seen will continue in 2007 and make it as special as this year was.
Thanks,
    GerardM

PS we can and will have more fundraisers :)

On 12/31/06, Anthere <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Tim Starling wrote:
> >
> http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/~leon/stats/reqstats/reqstats-monthly.png
> >
> > The quiestest two days for Wikimedia were the 24th and 25th, straddling
> > week 51 and 52 on the graph. A lull in request rate has continued
> > throughout the week. We're still seeing significantly more traffic now
> > than we were in the middle of the year, but I have to wonder if it might
> > not have been better, in hindsight, to move the fundraising drive back a
> > couple of weeks.
> >
> > -- Tim Starling
>
>
> If moving it "back" means "starting two weeks sooner", I must emphasize
> we expected to start the fundraising *sooner* than it actually started.
> We were delayed first by the audit (we absolutely wanted to be able to
> show financial results and a general budget along with the fundraising
> call).
> We were also delayed one more week, because technical details were not
> ready (if I remember well, crm was not entirely set up, site notice was
> not done at all, no agreement made with matching donors, the very cool
> fundraising website was not done yet, no press release had been written
> etc...).
> In short, we were not ready.
> Two weeks sooner would have been cool, but we just *did not have* the
> resources to make that happen. No use "wondering" if that would have
> been better. It was just not possible.
>
>
> If moving it "back" means "starting two weeks later", this was
> envisionned and much discussed; On one hand we wanted to give donors the
> opportunity to make a donation in year 2006, for tax deductibility
> purposes. On the other hand, the cash available was getting low. So, we
> decided to move on anyway.
>
>
> As for the realistic amount... let us be realistic. We have two main
> options.
> Either we give no goals. People see the money flow in, and are
> reassured. They think "oh, that's cool, they have enough money and we
> will not see any fundraising before a long time".
> And on our side, we despair in silence. Because we know we will proceed
> with a strict economy of sort.
>
> Or we give a goal. Or hint there is a goal. And perhaps reach it,
> perhaps do not reach it.
> If we do not reach, it is kinda easy to say "this goal were irrealistic,
> how stupid it was to set up such a goal".
>
>
> From my point of view, I prefer you to think we are irrealistic, but to
> realise that if we do not have enough money, then we will not have
> enough money to function properly. That may mean delay to purchase
> servers (hence, poor service to readers and editors). That may mean less
> developers (hence, no development of much needed features). That may
> mean less legal support (hence, additional delay when you are waiting
> for a contractual agreement to publish a DVD, or no help if you are a
> chapter and want support to retrieve a cybersquatted domain). That may
> mean no big meeting to work on the future of mediawiki. That may mean
> letting people abuse our trademarks, because we have no mean to go after
> abusers.
>
>
> Well, I prefer that we set up a goal that appears irrealistic, but which
> is nevertheless what we need. If we fail that goal, at least, I can
> explain why the Foundation will not pay a developer to work on
> reviewed-versions, or why the Foundation will not pay the travel of
> people to go to the next chapter meeting. These are examples. We can set
> up the priorities, and only fund the priorities. With much regrets for
> the other cool things we could do :-)
>
> Ant
>
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Re: Christmas lull

Tim Starling
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David Gerard wrote:

> On 31/12/06, James Hare <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>>That's quite a dip!
>
>
>>>http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/~leon/stats/reqstats/reqstats-monthly.png
>
>
>
> Is it reflected in previous years, normalising for trend?
>

We don't have data on previous years.

-- Tim Starling

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