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Code of Conduct committee meeting at Wikimania

Amir Sarabadani-2
Hello,
The CoC committee had a meeting with four members out of five (Lucie, Tony,
Tonina, and Amir were at Wikimania and MusikAnimal wasn't present). These
notes are the public outcomes of the meeting.

* The committee chose Amir as the chair (Amir requested to be the table but
it got rejected)
* The committee is currently composing the anonymized report of its cases
and will be published soon.
* The committee soon will decide on the two amendments currently under
discussion. Feel free to comment on these two:
** Public logging of bans:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uikcu1emvmw6e4z8
** Modifications on the appeal process:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uay0vz6no8ayac3m
* The committee is willing to introduce a new internal role which for lack
of better term, we call it secretary for now. The role's main
responsibility is to help the committee on organizational bookkeeping. Like
reports, documentation of cases, etc.
* At the end, the committee wants to remind people that its role is
reactionary and we won't interfere when there's no report. If you see a
behaviour you find unacceptable, stand up and send us a report and don't
wait for the committee to jump in.

Regards,
Amir on behalf of the committee
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Re: Code of Conduct committee meeting at Wikimania

Fæ
Thanks for the update. It's great to see the CoC processes improving
transparency and potentially accountability to the community.

It's worth noting how old the discussions are, with comments dating
back more than a year ago, especially in the context of how relatively
young the committee and the CoC is. Perhaps the members can discuss
with each other how improvements can be implemented and iterated more
manageably?

Thanks,
Fae

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 21:25, Amir Sarabadani <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hello,
> The CoC committee had a meeting with four members out of five (Lucie, Tony,
> Tonina, and Amir were at Wikimania and MusikAnimal wasn't present). These
> notes are the public outcomes of the meeting.
>
> * The committee chose Amir as the chair (Amir requested to be the table but
> it got rejected)
> * The committee is currently composing the anonymized report of its cases
> and will be published soon.
> * The committee soon will decide on the two amendments currently under
> discussion. Feel free to comment on these two:
> ** Public logging of bans:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uikcu1emvmw6e4z8
> ** Modifications on the appeal process:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uay0vz6no8ayac3m
> * The committee is willing to introduce a new internal role which for lack
> of better term, we call it secretary for now. The role's main
> responsibility is to help the committee on organizational bookkeeping. Like
> reports, documentation of cases, etc.
> * At the end, the committee wants to remind people that its role is
> reactionary and we won't interfere when there's no report. If you see a
> behaviour you find unacceptable, stand up and send us a report and don't
> wait for the committee to jump in.
>
> Regards,
> Amir on behalf of the committee
> _______________________________________________
> Wikitech-l mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l



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Re: Code of Conduct committee meeting at Wikimania

Pine W
+1 on the thanks for the update.

I have some ideas regarding modifications that I would like to propose to
the CoC but I am already stretched among too many tasks, so I am holding
these proposals. I do not want anarchy in technical spaces, and in general
I think that having some version of a code of conduct is good.

I am not sure whether Fae is referring to the chronological age of the
Committee as an organization or to the ages of its human members, though I
think that Fae is referring to the former. Regarding the latter, I'll make
a few comments. I am not very concerned regarding the chronological age of
committee members provided that they have reached the age of majority in
their relevant countries. I am more interested in language skills, publicly
reviewable experience and training in dispute resolution, understanding of
Wikimedia technical processes, emotional temperaments, listening skills,
reading comprehension, writing skills, research skills, demonstrated
willingness to make unpopular decisions (unpopular with WMF and/or
unpopular with a significant minority of community members), and degrees of
affiliation with WMF and the community.

Onward,

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )


On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 14:04 Fæ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for the update. It's great to see the CoC processes improving
> transparency and potentially accountability to the community.
>
> It's worth noting how old the discussions are, with comments dating
> back more than a year ago, especially in the context of how relatively
> young the committee and the CoC is. Perhaps the members can discuss
> with each other how improvements can be implemented and iterated more
> manageably?
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 21:25, Amir Sarabadani <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > The CoC committee had a meeting with four members out of five (Lucie,
> Tony,
> > Tonina, and Amir were at Wikimania and MusikAnimal wasn't present). These
> > notes are the public outcomes of the meeting.
> >
> > * The committee chose Amir as the chair (Amir requested to be the table
> but
> > it got rejected)
> > * The committee is currently composing the anonymized report of its cases
> > and will be published soon.
> > * The committee soon will decide on the two amendments currently under
> > discussion. Feel free to comment on these two:
> > ** Public logging of bans:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uikcu1emvmw6e4z8
> > ** Modifications on the appeal process:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Uay0vz6no8ayac3m
> > * The committee is willing to introduce a new internal role which for
> lack
> > of better term, we call it secretary for now. The role's main
> > responsibility is to help the committee on organizational bookkeeping.
> Like
> > reports, documentation of cases, etc.
> > * At the end, the committee wants to remind people that its role is
> > reactionary and we won't interfere when there's no report. If you see a
> > behaviour you find unacceptable, stand up and send us a report and don't
> > wait for the committee to jump in.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amir on behalf of the committee
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikitech-l mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
>
>
>
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