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Do not donate to Wikipedia

Ravishankar-3
Hey,

Do not donate to Wikipedia because your money will go for insane grants like

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:AbhiSuryawanshi/NASA_LARSS_program

I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I continue to see any such donation.

Ravi

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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

Ravishankar-3
Should have read

"I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I continue to see any such grant."
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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

Gautam John
On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> "I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I continue
> to see any such grant."

Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
and did fund the grant.

Why are you holding out such a threat?

Thank you.

Best,

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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

John Mark Vandenberg
I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
organisation.

The grant request page is quite confusing.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> "I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I continue
>> to see any such grant."
>
> Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
> read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
> and did fund the grant.
>
> Why are you holding out such a threat?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> ________
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>
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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

Béria Lima
John: Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.

Gautan: The "Grants" team in this case is Asaf only. The GAC didn't review participation grants.

Ravishankar: If you want to make your concern visible, post on Wikimedia mailing list <[hidden email]>
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On 8 July 2012 11:51, John Vandenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
organisation.

The grant request page is quite confusing.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> "I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I continue
>> to see any such grant."
>
> Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
> read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
> and did fund the grant.
>
> Why are you holding out such a threat?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> ________
> http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
>
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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

Asaf Bartov-2
Hello, everyone.

I have responded on the grant talk page.  Let's keep this conversation in one place, there:

Thanks,

   Asaf

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Béria Lima <[hidden email]> wrote:
John: Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.

Gautan: The "Grants" team in this case is Asaf only. The GAC didn't review participation grants.

Ravishankar: If you want to make your concern visible, post on Wikimedia mailing list <[hidden email]>
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On 8 July 2012 11:51, John Vandenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
organisation.

The grant request page is quite confusing.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> "I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I continue
>> to see any such grant."
>
> Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
> read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
> and did fund the grant.
>
> Why are you holding out such a threat?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> ________
> http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
>
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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

Srikanth Ramakrishnan-2
Ravi, do note that the same person requested a Grant for a Pune club
where he wanted money for food expenses as well.
On an unrelated note, there is a NASA-ISRO-BU Space Camp being held in
Coimbatore.

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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

Béria Lima
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Asaf, GAC isn't for Participation grants, I don't know why you throwing that in the people who disagree. And you said yourself you needed to consult with WMIN, they are telling a big "NO", why you don't refuse the grant?
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On 9 July 2012 03:00, Asaf Bartov <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I have responded on the grant talk page.  Let's keep this conversation in one place, there:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation_talk:AbhiSuryawanshi/NASA_LARSS_program#Chapter_consultation.3F<span onmouseout="cancel = false; window.setTimeout(WRCHideContent, 1000); clearTimeout(showTimer);" onmouseover=" var self = this; showTimer = window.setTimeout(function(){WRCShowContent({&#39;rating&#39;:{&#39;value&#39;:97,&#39;weight&#39;:17},&#39;flags&#39;:{},&#39;single&#39;:true,&#39;ttl&#39;:7200,&#39;expireTime&#39;:&#39;20120709105144&#39;}, self.className)},600);" class="wrc11" style="padding-right:16px;width:16px;height:16px"> 

Thanks,

   Asaf


On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Béria Lima <[hidden email]> wrote:
John: Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.

Gautan: The "Grants" team in this case is Asaf only. The GAC didn't review participation grants.

Ravishankar: If you want to make your concern visible, post on Wikimedia mailing list <[hidden email]>
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On 8 July 2012 11:51, John Vandenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
organisation.

The grant request page is quite confusing.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> "I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I continue
>> to see any such grant."
>
> Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
> read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
> and did fund the grant.
>
> Why are you holding out such a threat?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> ________
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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

Asaf Bartov-2
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Béria Lima <[hidden email]> wrote:
Asaf, GAC isn't for Participation grants, I don't know why you throwing that in the people who disagree.

Yes, Béria, and I have acknowledged this not once but *twice* in the response that first mentioned the GAC.  I was pointing out that the GAC is an opportunity to affect (other) grantmaking of the Foundation, and that we're accepting candidates right now.  It seemed a good opportunity to recruit volunteers who evidently care about effective use of movement funds, wouldn't you say?

I certainly did not imply, and I think no careful reader of my comment could have been led to believe, that the GAC is involved with the Participation Support program.

Re consulting with WMIN, as I said on the talk page, it was an oversight, but the request is now approved, commitments have been made vis-a-vis the host, and we will not reverse the decision at this point.  I have certainly been in the wrong here, and am taking steps to ensure it doesn't happen again (specifically, I've created a checklist to go through before future approvals, like the (more complex) checklist we have already had in place for Wikimedia Grants).

   Asaf

 
And you said yourself you needed to consult with WMIN, they are telling a big "NO", why you don't refuse the grant?
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On 9 July 2012 03:00, Asaf Bartov <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I have responded on the grant talk page.  Let's keep this conversation in one place, there:

Thanks,

   Asaf


On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Béria Lima <[hidden email]> wrote:
John: Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.

Gautan: The "Grants" team in this case is Asaf only. The GAC didn't review participation grants.

Ravishankar: If you want to make your concern visible, post on Wikimedia mailing list <[hidden email]>
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On 8 July 2012 11:51, John Vandenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
I hope I am wrong, but this doesnt look like it fits within the
participation assistance scheme.  Instead it looks like the assistance
is to cover travel to USA for an internship at NASA-related
organisation.

The grant request page is quite confusing.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Gautam John <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 8 July 2012 16:49, Ravishankar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> "I plan to run this campaign across all Social media networks if I continue
>> to see any such grant."
>
> Something by way of explanation would be nice as well? As far as I can
> read, the WMF/Grants Team believes it fits one or more of the goals
> and did fund the grant.
>
> Why are you holding out such a threat?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> ________
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>
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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

John Mark Vandenberg
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On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Béria Lima <[hidden email]> wrote:
> John: Is a presentation not an internship for what I read.

Hi Beria,

Sorry and thank you for clarifying. I was confused by the fact that
the participant is going for 10 days, which is more than needed to
make a presentation & workshop.  IMO, the LARSS event still doesnt
appear to fit within the requirement of no-other-scholarship-program.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Support#Events_with_other_scholarship_programs

Again IMO, there isn't enough information in the grant request.

But at least this grant requires a report at the end, so hopefully
we'll read about how effective it was afterwards.

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Re: Do not donate to Wikipedia

Srikanth Ramakrishnan-2
Can someone clarify on how Wikimedia projects will benefit here?

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