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Klaas Van Be
Dear fellow-translators,

Someone wrote in answer to EJ:

Man, have you fallen ill recently? Stop garbaging the list, please.
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Eleri James 
> > wrote:
>
> OK - my messages appear to be blocked from the archive. Who do I ask why I
> have been blocked and why I have not been informed that I am blocked?



Dear Eleri,

If you're blocked write to a steward/moderator and/or the list-owner.
When you keep repeating the entire conversation it's irritating for digest posters at least.

Cut the crap, please!

Patio



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Re: EJ

KIZU Naoko
Hello,

it's generally not wise to resurrect an unfriendly thread, but I'd
like you all to know some glitches we've seen for years.

From unknown reason, the Wikimedia list archive have dropped mails of
certain posters. Weirdly some people have never suffer this problem,
and people who've faced seen some of their mail archived. So this
issue affects no entire subscribers but have repeated.

Sadly there is nothing to do on the level of list moderators. Mailman
developers or Wikimedia admins may help or not.

I'd like to stress it's beyond both list moderators and stewards.
Stewards have rights to manage Wikimedia wikis and list is separated
from those wikis. It is a different system at all. And on moderators -
you may know I'm one of moderators of this list and some of my mails
have not been archived for years. I don't know why. But it happens.

Sorry Eleri for late response and giving no help. I'd love to see it
fixed, but have no idea how to do.

Cheers,

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Klaas Van Be <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dear fellow-translators,
> Someone wrote in answer to EJ:
> Man, have you fallen ill recently? Stop garbaging the list, please.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Eleri James
>> > wrote:
>>
>> OK - my messages appear to be blocked from the archive. Who do I ask why I
>> have been blocked and why I have not been informed that I am blocked?
>
>
> ________________________________
> Dear Eleri,
> If you're blocked write to a steward/moderator and/or the list-owner.
> When you keep repeating the entire conversation it's irritating for digest
> posters at least.
> Cut the crap, please!
> Patio
>
>
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Re: EJ

Eleri James
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Thank you for your comments. For your information, I raised a bug report on this. The problem has been identified as follows: if you start a line with the word "From" then the message is truncated in the archive (and also in the copy sent to yourself). This bug was first identified in October 2010 but has yet to be fixed, so we may still have to live with it for a while yet. I have requested, via on of the list administrators, that some thought be given to ways of providing information about bugs and other guidance on using the lists. That might save us all a lot of time and frustration.

I think it's ironic that my e-mail, which is partly about the missing localisations of the fundraiser, should itself be missing.

I also apologise to those members of this list who were seriously annoyed and greatly inconvenienced by my futile attempts to fix the problem myself.

Regards,
Eleri James

--- On Thu, 17/2/11, KIZU Naoko <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: KIZU Naoko <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Translators-l] EJ
To: "Wikimedia Translators" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Klaas Van Be" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, 17 February, 2011, 16:46

Hello,

it's generally not wise to resurrect an unfriendly thread, but I'd
like you all to know some glitches we've seen for years.

From unknown reason, the Wikimedia list archive have dropped mails of
certain posters. Weirdly some people have never suffer this problem,
and people who've faced seen some of their mail archived. So this
issue affects no entire subscribers but have repeated.

Sadly there is nothing to do on the level of list moderators. Mailman
developers or Wikimedia admins may help or not.

I'd like to stress it's beyond both list moderators and stewards.
Stewards have rights to manage Wikimedia wikis and list is separated
from those wikis. It is a different system at all. And on moderators -
you may know I'm one of moderators of this list and some of my mails
have not been archived for years. I don't know why. But it happens.

Sorry Eleri for late response and giving no help. I'd love to see it
fixed, but have no idea how to do.

Cheers,

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Klaas Van Be <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dear fellow-translators,
> Someone wrote in answer to EJ:
> Man, have you fallen ill recently? Stop garbaging the list, please.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Eleri James
>> > wrote:
>>
>> OK - my messages appear to be blocked from the archive. Who do I ask why I
>> have been blocked and why I have not been informed that I am blocked?
>
>
> ________________________________
> Dear Eleri,
> If you're blocked write to a steward/moderator and/or the list-owner.
> When you keep repeating the entire conversation it's irritating for digest
> posters at least.
> Cut the crap, please!
> Patio
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Translators-l mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l
>
>



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member of Wikimedians in Kansai  / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp

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