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Egregiously missing option in Upload dialog

Arne 'Timwi' Heizmann

Hi.

A friend of mine just tried to upload an image to Wikipedia which was
given to him by another friend.

Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:

* made by someone else for use on Wikipedia only
* made by someone else for non-commercial use only

and both of these options lead to a speedy-deletion warning. The most
OBVIOUS options are missing:

* made by someone else and licenced as (whatever free/open licence)
* made by someone else and placed in the public domain

Because of this, he is forced to use a lower-quality image or no image
at all (or to lie by claiming to be the author of the work).

I think this should be fixed as soon as possible so that normal,
reasonable people can upload normal, reasonable images.

Very frustrated,
Timwi


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Re: Egregiously missing option in Upload dialog

Charlotte Webb
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Timwi <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:

I didn't know anyone actually tried to use the drop-down menu. I think
there's a page somewhere which lists and describes all valid image
tags, but I can't seem to find it at the moment. This may indicate a
more serious problem.

—C.W.

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Re: Egregiously missing option in Upload dialog

Sandahl *
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/Comprehensivehas
them afaik. probably best to upload them to commons if they have a
free
license. cheers

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Timwi <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi.
>
> A friend of mine just tried to upload an image to Wikipedia which was
> given to him by another friend.
>
> Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:
>
> * made by someone else for use on Wikipedia only
> * made by someone else for non-commercial use only
>
> and both of these options lead to a speedy-deletion warning. The most
> OBVIOUS options are missing:
>
> * made by someone else and licenced as (whatever free/open licence)
> * made by someone else and placed in the public domain
>
> Because of this, he is forced to use a lower-quality image or no image
> at all (or to lie by claiming to be the author of the work).
>
> I think this should be fixed as soon as possible so that normal,
> reasonable people can upload normal, reasonable images.
>
> Very frustrated,
> Timwi
>
>
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Re: Egregiously missing option in Upload dialog

Judson Dunn-2
I think the assumed path is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Upload

then clicking second link to

http://bit.ly/1a5s5O

Then in that drop down there should be the things you are looking for
under "freely licensed" or "public domain".

The dropdown at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload is not
that user friendly, but it's not that easy to get to either, unless
you are familiar with special pages and/or have bookmarked it. I think
the assumption now is the only people using that form would be expert
users that might just prefer manual tagging and not going through the
little path for newer people.

Maybe it's still linked to prominently somewhere forgotten though, no
doubt... :)

Judson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cohesion

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Re: Egregiously missing option in Upload dialog

Ray Saintonge
In reply to this post by Charlotte Webb
Charlotte Webb wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Timwi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>> Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:
>>    
> I didn't know anyone actually tried to use the drop-down menu. I think
> there's a page somewhere which lists and describes all valid image
> tags, but I can't seem to find it at the moment. This may indicate a
> more serious problem.


If you, as an experienced user, can't find it, this does not bode well
for newbies.

Ec

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Re: Egregiously missing option in Upload dialog

Maury Markowitz
Some good news: media uploading is one of the critical items on the
list of UI issues to fix.

Maury

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Re: Egregiously missing option in Upload dialog

metasj
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Timwi -

That is indeed pretty egregious.  I use that dialog all the time, but
usually upload my own images and so didn't really attend to whether
the other options are complete.

I agree that this should be fixed, and filed a bug:
  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20648

(I thought there would be one already but couldn't find it; please dup
it if necessary)

SJ

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Timwi <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi.
>
> A friend of mine just tried to upload an image to Wikipedia which was
> given to him by another friend.
>
> Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:
>
> * made by someone else for use on Wikipedia only
> * made by someone else for non-commercial use only
>
> and both of these options lead to a speedy-deletion warning. The most
> OBVIOUS options are missing:
>
> * made by someone else and licenced as (whatever free/open licence)
> * made by someone else and placed in the public domain
>
> Because of this, he is forced to use a lower-quality image or no image
> at all (or to lie by claiming to be the author of the work).
>
> I think this should be fixed as soon as possible so that normal,
> reasonable people can upload normal, reasonable images.
>
> Very frustrated,
> Timwi
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikipedia-l mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
>

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