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Carcharoth
If the moderators of this mailing list are around, would they or
anyone else subscribed to the list be able to throw up some statistics
about how much the traffic has declined over the past few years? I'm
asking because looking at the archives, I think that last month
(November 2014) was the first month since the mailing list started in
September 2001 that there were no posts to the this mailing list (the
wiki-en-l mailing list for discussion of matters related to the
English Wikipedia).

Admittedly, the list has been moribund for a long time, but I'm not
sure exactly when the tipping point was reached (most meta-discussion
seems to take place either on-wiki, at meta, or on the Wikimedia-l
mailing list). What is the general view in the Wikimedia universe on
maintaining low-traffic lists like this? It might be time to discuss
what future this mailing list has.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Actually, looking at the list of moderators, how many of them are still around?

Carcharoth

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Re: Future of this mailing list

Brian J Mingus
What is there to say?

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Carcharoth <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> If the moderators of this mailing list are around, would they or
> anyone else subscribed to the list be able to throw up some statistics
> about how much the traffic has declined over the past few years? I'm
> asking because looking at the archives, I think that last month
> (November 2014) was the first month since the mailing list started in
> September 2001 that there were no posts to the this mailing list (the
> wiki-en-l mailing list for discussion of matters related to the
> English Wikipedia).
>
> Admittedly, the list has been moribund for a long time, but I'm not
> sure exactly when the tipping point was reached (most meta-discussion
> seems to take place either on-wiki, at meta, or on the Wikimedia-l
> mailing list). What is the general view in the Wikimedia universe on
> maintaining low-traffic lists like this? It might be time to discuss
> what future this mailing list has.
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
>
> Actually, looking at the list of moderators, how many of them are still
> around?
>
> Carcharoth
>
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Re: Future of this mailing list

Fred Bauder-2
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How about disabling new posts, or forwarding new posts to Wikimedia-l,
making a referral to Wikimedia-l in the info, and leaving the archives
open.

Fred Bauder

On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 00:26:31 +0000
  Carcharoth <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If the moderators of this mailing list are around, would they or
> anyone else subscribed to the list be able to throw up some
>statistics
> about how much the traffic has declined over the past few years? I'm
> asking because looking at the archives, I think that last month
> (November 2014) was the first month since the mailing list started
>in
> September 2001 that there were no posts to the this mailing list
>(the
> wiki-en-l mailing list for discussion of matters related to the
> English Wikipedia).
>
> Admittedly, the list has been moribund for a long time, but I'm not
> sure exactly when the tipping point was reached (most
>meta-discussion
> seems to take place either on-wiki, at meta, or on the Wikimedia-l
> mailing list). What is the general view in the Wikimedia universe on
> maintaining low-traffic lists like this? It might be time to discuss
> what future this mailing list has.
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
>
> Actually, looking at the list of moderators, how many of them are
>still around?
>
> Carcharoth
>
> _______________________________________________
> WikiEN-l mailing list
> [hidden email]
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l


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Carcharoth
The moderators of Wikimedia-l would need to agree to that. En-specific
stuff would be off-topic there. Could someone cross-post this there if that
is allowed? Also best to wait for one of the moderators here to weigh in.

On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, FRED BAUDER <[hidden email]> wrote:
> How about disabling new posts, or forwarding new posts to Wikimedia-l,
making a referral to Wikimedia-l in the info, and leaving the archives open.

>
> Fred Bauder
>
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 00:26:31 +0000
>  Carcharoth <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> If the moderators of this mailing list are around, would they or
>> anyone else subscribed to the list be able to throw up some statistics
>> about how much the traffic has declined over the past few years? I'm
>> asking because looking at the archives, I think that last month
>> (November 2014) was the first month since the mailing list started in
>> September 2001 that there were no posts to the this mailing list (the
>> wiki-en-l mailing list for discussion of matters related to the
>> English Wikipedia).
>>
>> Admittedly, the list has been moribund for a long time, but I'm not
>> sure exactly when the tipping point was reached (most meta-discussion
>> seems to take place either on-wiki, at meta, or on the Wikimedia-l
>> mailing list). What is the general view in the Wikimedia universe on
>> maintaining low-traffic lists like this? It might be time to discuss
>> what future this mailing list has.
>>
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
>>
>> Actually, looking at the list of moderators, how many of them are still
around?

>>
>> Carcharoth
>>
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Re: Future of this mailing list

Amir E. Aharoni
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I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language issues
on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if nobody is
interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it shut
down.

I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead, except
occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.


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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

2014-12-02 2:26 GMT+02:00 Carcharoth <[hidden email]>:

> If the moderators of this mailing list are around, would they or
> anyone else subscribed to the list be able to throw up some statistics
> about how much the traffic has declined over the past few years? I'm
> asking because looking at the archives, I think that last month
> (November 2014) was the first month since the mailing list started in
> September 2001 that there were no posts to the this mailing list (the
> wiki-en-l mailing list for discussion of matters related to the
> English Wikipedia).
>
> Admittedly, the list has been moribund for a long time, but I'm not
> sure exactly when the tipping point was reached (most meta-discussion
> seems to take place either on-wiki, at meta, or on the Wikimedia-l
> mailing list). What is the general view in the Wikimedia universe on
> maintaining low-traffic lists like this? It might be time to discuss
> what future this mailing list has.
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
>
> Actually, looking at the list of moderators, how many of them are still
> around?
>
> Carcharoth
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Future of this mailing list

David Gerard-2
On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language issues
> on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if nobody is
> interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it shut
> down.


Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
bothering. Not that there's much to do.

In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
wikimedia-l, if at all.


> I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead, except
> occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.


+1


- d.

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Carcharoth
Time to once again consider the future of this list and maybe also
that of Wikipedia-L (as David suggested back in December)?

I think I'm right in saying that apart from this list being used for
some discussion of block appeals, nothing was posted here for all of
June and July?

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/

Yup. June 2015 and July 2015 join September 2014 as 'dead' months in
the archives. :-)

On 12/2/14, David Gerard <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language
>> issues
>> on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if nobody
>> is
>> interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it shut
>> down.
>
>
> Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
> bothering. Not that there's much to do.
>
> In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
> wikimedia-l, if at all.
>
>
>> I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead, except
>> occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.
>
>
> +1
>
>
> - d.
>
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Pine W
I don't see much harm in keeping this list alive in a low-activity state.

Pine


On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Carcharoth <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Time to once again consider the future of this list and maybe also
> that of Wikipedia-L (as David suggested back in December)?
>
> I think I'm right in saying that apart from this list being used for
> some discussion of block appeals, nothing was posted here for all of
> June and July?
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
>
> Yup. June 2015 and July 2015 join September 2014 as 'dead' months in
> the archives. :-)
>
> On 12/2/14, David Gerard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language
> >> issues
> >> on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if nobody
> >> is
> >> interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it shut
> >> down.
> >
> >
> > Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
> > bothering. Not that there's much to do.
> >
> > In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
> > wikimedia-l, if at all.
> >
> >
> >> I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead,
> except
> >> occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.
> >
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > [hidden email]
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
> >
>
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Risker
I've given this some thought, and pretty much come to the conclusion that
it would be better to make this list "historic" rather than keep it open.
This is a reflection on the fact that almost none of the subscribers seem
to use it, that there are almost no posts to it, that it can easily become
a black hole where a "new" subscriber is unaware that the likelihood
they'll get a response to their email, or one that is accurate or
actionable, is very small.

In an ideal world, this list would be active and lively and chock full of
interesting discussions. That's not happening at all.  It is better to
consider this "legacy communication" and to lock it down (thus relieving
the responsibilities of the probably one or two list admins who are
actually moderating through the one real message out of thousands of spam
messages).  It is obvious that this list is no longer serving the purpose
it once had.  I'm not sure exactly where people are going to communicate
now - there are lots of comments for a lot of blog posts, I understand
facebook gets a fair number of responses, and some of the on-wiki
noticeboard are quite active. But this list is no longer reaching the
target community.

Risker/Anne

On 11 August 2015 at 17:16, Pine W <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I don't see much harm in keeping this list alive in a low-activity state.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Carcharoth <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Time to once again consider the future of this list and maybe also
> > that of Wikipedia-L (as David suggested back in December)?
> >
> > I think I'm right in saying that apart from this list being used for
> > some discussion of block appeals, nothing was posted here for all of
> > June and July?
> >
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
> >
> > Yup. June 2015 and July 2015 join September 2014 as 'dead' months in
> > the archives. :-)
> >
> > On 12/2/14, David Gerard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
> > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language
> > >> issues
> > >> on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if
> nobody
> > >> is
> > >> interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it
> shut
> > >> down.
> > >
> > >
> > > Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
> > > bothering. Not that there's much to do.
> > >
> > > In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
> > > wikimedia-l, if at all.
> > >
> > >
> > >> I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead,
> > except
> > >> occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.
> > >
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > >
> > > - d.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > [hidden email]
> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:
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> > >
> >
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> >
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David Gerard-2
I think it's basically just me occasionally clearing the mod queue. I
concur - mothball this list.

On 13 August 2015 at 14:18, Risker <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've given this some thought, and pretty much come to the conclusion that
> it would be better to make this list "historic" rather than keep it open.
> This is a reflection on the fact that almost none of the subscribers seem
> to use it, that there are almost no posts to it, that it can easily become
> a black hole where a "new" subscriber is unaware that the likelihood
> they'll get a response to their email, or one that is accurate or
> actionable, is very small.
>
> In an ideal world, this list would be active and lively and chock full of
> interesting discussions. That's not happening at all.  It is better to
> consider this "legacy communication" and to lock it down (thus relieving
> the responsibilities of the probably one or two list admins who are
> actually moderating through the one real message out of thousands of spam
> messages).  It is obvious that this list is no longer serving the purpose
> it once had.  I'm not sure exactly where people are going to communicate
> now - there are lots of comments for a lot of blog posts, I understand
> facebook gets a fair number of responses, and some of the on-wiki
> noticeboard are quite active. But this list is no longer reaching the
> target community.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 11 August 2015 at 17:16, Pine W <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I don't see much harm in keeping this list alive in a low-activity state.
>>
>> Pine
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Carcharoth <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Time to once again consider the future of this list and maybe also
>> > that of Wikipedia-L (as David suggested back in December)?
>> >
>> > I think I'm right in saying that apart from this list being used for
>> > some discussion of block appeals, nothing was posted here for all of
>> > June and July?
>> >
>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
>> >
>> > Yup. June 2015 and July 2015 join September 2014 as 'dead' months in
>> > the archives. :-)
>> >
>> > On 12/2/14, David Gerard <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
>> > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language
>> > >> issues
>> > >> on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if
>> nobody
>> > >> is
>> > >> interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it
>> shut
>> > >> down.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
>> > > bothering. Not that there's much to do.
>> > >
>> > > In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
>> > > wikimedia-l, if at all.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead,
>> > except
>> > >> occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > +1
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > - d.
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > WikiEN-l mailing list
>> > > [hidden email]
>> > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:
>> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
>> > >
>> >
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>> >
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Re: Future of this mailing list

Brian J Mingus
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Leave the list open! There are lots of important people subscribed, and you
never know when an interesting conversation will pop up.

I'm the present moderator of a mailing list that's been active since 1988.
When an interesting conversation starts, it's fascinating to see all the
famous people chime in. That could happen here.

Best,

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Risker <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've given this some thought, and pretty much come to the conclusion that
> it would be better to make this list "historic" rather than keep it open.
> This is a reflection on the fact that almost none of the subscribers seem
> to use it, that there are almost no posts to it, that it can easily become
> a black hole where a "new" subscriber is unaware that the likelihood
> they'll get a response to their email, or one that is accurate or
> actionable, is very small.
>
> In an ideal world, this list would be active and lively and chock full of
> interesting discussions. That's not happening at all.  It is better to
> consider this "legacy communication" and to lock it down (thus relieving
> the responsibilities of the probably one or two list admins who are
> actually moderating through the one real message out of thousands of spam
> messages).  It is obvious that this list is no longer serving the purpose
> it once had.  I'm not sure exactly where people are going to communicate
> now - there are lots of comments for a lot of blog posts, I understand
> facebook gets a fair number of responses, and some of the on-wiki
> noticeboard are quite active. But this list is no longer reaching the
> target community.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 11 August 2015 at 17:16, Pine W <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I don't see much harm in keeping this list alive in a low-activity state.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Carcharoth <[hidden email]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Time to once again consider the future of this list and maybe also
> > > that of Wikipedia-L (as David suggested back in December)?
> > >
> > > I think I'm right in saying that apart from this list being used for
> > > some discussion of block appeals, nothing was posted here for all of
> > > June and July?
> > >
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
> > >
> > > Yup. June 2015 and July 2015 join September 2014 as 'dead' months in
> > > the archives. :-)
> > >
> > > On 12/2/14, David Gerard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
> > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language
> > > >> issues
> > > >> on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if
> > nobody
> > > >> is
> > > >> interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it
> > shut
> > > >> down.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
> > > > bothering. Not that there's much to do.
> > > >
> > > > In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
> > > > wikimedia-l, if at all.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead,
> > > except
> > > >> occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - d.
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > WikiEN-l mailing list
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:
> > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
> > > >
> > >
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Re: Future of this mailing list

Brian J Mingus
By active I mean open. It has had periods of quietness.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Brian J Mingus <[hidden email]>
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> Leave the list open! There are lots of important people subscribed, and
> you never know when an interesting conversation will pop up.
>
> I'm the present moderator of a mailing list that's been active since 1988.
> When an interesting conversation starts, it's fascinating to see all the
> famous people chime in. That could happen here.
>
> Best,
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Risker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I've given this some thought, and pretty much come to the conclusion that
>> it would be better to make this list "historic" rather than keep it open.
>> This is a reflection on the fact that almost none of the subscribers seem
>> to use it, that there are almost no posts to it, that it can easily become
>> a black hole where a "new" subscriber is unaware that the likelihood
>> they'll get a response to their email, or one that is accurate or
>> actionable, is very small.
>>
>> In an ideal world, this list would be active and lively and chock full of
>> interesting discussions. That's not happening at all.  It is better to
>> consider this "legacy communication" and to lock it down (thus relieving
>> the responsibilities of the probably one or two list admins who are
>> actually moderating through the one real message out of thousands of spam
>> messages).  It is obvious that this list is no longer serving the purpose
>> it once had.  I'm not sure exactly where people are going to communicate
>> now - there are lots of comments for a lot of blog posts, I understand
>> facebook gets a fair number of responses, and some of the on-wiki
>> noticeboard are quite active. But this list is no longer reaching the
>> target community.
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>>
>> On 11 August 2015 at 17:16, Pine W <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't see much harm in keeping this list alive in a low-activity
>> state.
>> >
>> > Pine
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Carcharoth <
>> [hidden email]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Time to once again consider the future of this list and maybe also
>> > > that of Wikipedia-L (as David suggested back in December)?
>> > >
>> > > I think I'm right in saying that apart from this list being used for
>> > > some discussion of block appeals, nothing was posted here for all of
>> > > June and July?
>> > >
>> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
>> > >
>> > > Yup. June 2015 and July 2015 join September 2014 as 'dead' months in
>> > > the archives. :-)
>> > >
>> > > On 12/2/14, David Gerard <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > > On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
>> > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I kinda like the separation between cross-project and
>> cross-language
>> > > >> issues
>> > > >> on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if
>> > nobody
>> > > >> is
>> > > >> interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it
>> > shut
>> > > >> down.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
>> > > > bothering. Not that there's much to do.
>> > > >
>> > > > In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
>> > > > wikimedia-l, if at all.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead,
>> > > except
>> > > >> occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > +1
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > - d.
>> > > >
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Re: Future of this mailing list

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On 13 August 2015 at 15:08, Brian J Mingus <[hidden email]>
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> Leave the list open! There are lots of important people subscribed, and you
> never know when an interesting conversation will pop up.
>

Sounds as if we need a moderator willing to take over from David G.

Charles
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Re: Future of this mailing list

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On 13 August 2015 at 16:01, Charles Matthews
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> On 13 August 2015 at 15:08, Brian J Mingus <[hidden email]>
> wrote:

>> Leave the list open! There are lots of important people subscribed, and you
>> never know when an interesting conversation will pop up.

> Sounds as if we need a moderator willing to take over from David G.


Ehh, I'm not tired of the job - it's not actually work, the "new
posters on mod" thing works brilliantly to keep the spam and idiots
out - though if anyone else who can work Mailman wants to go on that's
fine too. I just think the list has run its useful course, and had
done a few years ago. I suppose it's not actually harming anything
being here.


- d.

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