Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

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Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

Cristian Consonni
Sapevatelo!

C
---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
Da: "Denny Vrandečić" <[hidden email]>
Data: 25/giu/2012 12:29
Oggetto: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the
Wikipedias
A: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <[hidden email]>

Hi all,

I ran some analysis last week, to get some numbers out of the
Wikipedia language links. One type of reports that were generated was
the list of all articles in the main namespaces of the Wikipedias that
link to more than one article in another language edition of Wikipedia
(so called double language links). There are not that many of them
(about 19,000 in total), split by language, all available here:

<http://simia.net/languagelinks/>

Double language links are not errors per se, but they contain a few
nuisances
* they lead to two links in the language links list that just look the
same (you have to hover over them to see that they link to different
languages), which is not really optimal from the user experience side
* they are not saved in the langlinks table and thus are ignored in
certain reports and also in the respective export

I am not sure how to reach out to the respective Wikipedia
communities, or if I should at all. Should I post to their respective
version of the village pump? Remembering from the time I was active on
the Croatian Wikipedia, I would have appreciated that list to check
the entries. I reckoned the wikipedia-l list would be the right place,
but that list looks rather dead.

Cheers,
Denny

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Re: Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

Jaqen
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Cristian Consonni
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Sapevatelo!
>
> C
> ---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
> Da: "Denny Vrandečić" <[hidden email]>
> Data: 25/giu/2012 12:29
> Oggetto: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the
> Wikipedias
> A: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <[hidden email]>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I ran some analysis last week, to get some numbers out of the
> Wikipedia language links. One type of reports that were generated was
> the list of all articles in the main namespaces of the Wikipedias that
> link to more than one article in another language edition of Wikipedia
> (so called double language links). There are not that many of them
> (about 19,000 in total), split by language, all available here:
>
> <http://simia.net/languagelinks/>
>
> Double language links are not errors per se, but they contain a few
> nuisances
> * they lead to two links in the language links list that just look the
> same (you have to hover over them to see that they link to different
> languages), which is not really optimal from the user experience side
> * they are not saved in the langlinks table and thus are ignored in
> certain reports and also in the respective export
>
> I am not sure how to reach out to the respective Wikipedia
> communities, or if I should at all. Should I post to their respective
> version of the village pump? Remembering from the time I was active on
> the Croatian Wikipedia, I would have appreciated that list to check
> the entries. I reckoned the wikipedia-l list would be the right place,
> but that list looks rather dead.
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
>
> --
> Project director Wikidata
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin
> Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
> unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
> Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
>
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Thanks! (Come strumento è un po' impreciso comunque)

Jaqen

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Re: Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jaqen, 26/06/2012 11:58:
> Thanks! (Come strumento è un po' impreciso comunque)

Mi pare che sarebbe piú utile migliorare pywikipediabot in modo che
correggere gli errori non sia piú un compito sovrumano e riutilizzare a
questo scopo i botolatori espulsi dalle (correttissime) nuove regole del
Toolserver che vietano la proliferazione dei bot interwiki automatici.

Nemo

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