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Pragun Bhutani
Hi,

I plan to propose a GSOC project through Wikimedia this year, based around
the idea of mobilizing Wikidata. I'd like to share my understanding of the
problem and gain some feedback on that, as well as some more input from the
community.
*
*
*Problem at hand:*
*
*
Unlike Wikipedia, which displays information as mainly text, WIkidata
presents information in the form of a grid of divs. While the
MobileFrontend extension prints a mobile friendly version of Wikipedia,
there needs to be a separate extension for Wikidata.

This extension needs to be tailored to print these grids instead of text
and lay them out in a way that's suitable for a mobile device.

Additionally, the design should allow the addition of/should include 'edit'
functionality tailored to suit a mobile device.

   - Has there been any previous work done on this front that I could refer
   to?

I look forward to receiving your feedback.

Thanks,
Pragun Bhutani
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Re: Ideating on GSOC project : Mobilize Wikidata

nischay nahata
At first glance this looks too big a project for GSoC.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I plan to propose a GSOC project through Wikimedia this year, based around
> the idea of mobilizing Wikidata. I'd like to share my understanding of the
> problem and gain some feedback on that, as well as some more input from the
> community.
> *
> *
> *Problem at hand:*
> *
> *
> Unlike Wikipedia, which displays information as mainly text, WIkidata
> presents information in the form of a grid of divs. While the
> MobileFrontend extension prints a mobile friendly version of Wikipedia,
> there needs to be a separate extension for Wikidata.
>
> This extension needs to be tailored to print these grids instead of text
> and lay them out in a way that's suitable for a mobile device.
>
> Additionally, the design should allow the addition of/should include 'edit'
> functionality tailored to suit a mobile device.
>
>    - Has there been any previous work done on this front that I could refer
>    to?
>
> I look forward to receiving your feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Pragun Bhutani
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Re: Ideating on GSOC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Denny Vrandečić
I would hope that the widgets we have developed for the Wikidata desktop UI
- especially the Entity Selector widget - would be reusable on mobile.

It would also be extremely good to look in what the mobile team is doing
for Wikipedia. Since both is MediaWiki in the backend anyway, I would
assume that the Wikipedia Mobile code has a lot of reusable parts, or even
should be a commons start ground. Brion, did you have a look at how
feasible that would be?

I disagree with Nishayn -- I don't think that's too big for a GSoC. It
really depends on where you draw the line and how perfect you want to be,
but we would define that in a way that makes it feasibly sized.




2013/4/9 Nischay Nahata <[hidden email]>

> At first glance this looks too big a project for GSoC.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I plan to propose a GSOC project through Wikimedia this year, based
> around
> > the idea of mobilizing Wikidata. I'd like to share my understanding of
> the
> > problem and gain some feedback on that, as well as some more input from
> the
> > community.
> > *
> > *
> > *Problem at hand:*
> > *
> > *
> > Unlike Wikipedia, which displays information as mainly text, WIkidata
> > presents information in the form of a grid of divs. While the
> > MobileFrontend extension prints a mobile friendly version of Wikipedia,
> > there needs to be a separate extension for Wikidata.
> >
> > This extension needs to be tailored to print these grids instead of text
> > and lay them out in a way that's suitable for a mobile device.
> >
> > Additionally, the design should allow the addition of/should include
> 'edit'
> > functionality tailored to suit a mobile device.
> >
> >    - Has there been any previous work done on this front that I could
> refer
> >    to?
> >
> > I look forward to receiving your feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pragun Bhutani
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikitech-l mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
>
>
>
>
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>
> Nischay Nahata
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Re: Ideating on GSOC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Quim Gil-2
On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
> I would hope

> It would also be extremely good to look

 > I would assume

> I don't think

Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of your
knowledge to the questions at

Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065

Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any answer more
precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to people in
those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a candidate
like Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and where
the complexity/simplicity relies.

In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not encourage GSOC
/ OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around August.

Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance somewhere
with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know more
about the gap this project should fill?

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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Pragun Bhutani
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Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on #wikimedia-mobile,
I've got a few things to add:

- It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being accessed
through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and such of the
box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend.

Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like Quim Gil
suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with trying
to make WIkidata mobile-friendly.

If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be excellent but if
it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would make more
sense to make a completely new extension for it.

Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the moment, I think
that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with respect to the
GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the project
after GSoC ends.

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
>
>> I would hope
>>
>
>  It would also be extremely good to look
>>
>
> > I would assume
>
>  I don't think
>>
>
> Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of your
> knowledge to the questions at
>
> Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065>
>
> Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any answer more
> precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to people in
> those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a candidate like
> Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and where the
> complexity/simplicity relies.
>
> In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not encourage GSOC /
> OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around August.
>
> Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance somewhere
> with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know more about
> the gap this project should fill?
>
> --
> Quim Gil
> Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
>
>
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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Denny Vrandečić
2013/4/10 Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]>

> Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on #wikimedia-mobile,
> I've got a few things to add:
>
> - It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being accessed
> through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and such of the
> box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend.
>
> Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like Quim Gil
> suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with trying
> to make WIkidata mobile-friendly.
>
> If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be excellent but if
> it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would make more
> sense to make a completely new extension for it.
>
>
I think that sounds like a good plan.


> Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the moment, I think
> that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with respect to the
> GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the project
> after GSoC ends.
>
>
I am glad to hear that. But I think it would be important to scope the
project so that it can be finished in GSoC time - but obviously, further
work on it afterwards will be gladly appreciated.

So, let's consider what should be working:
* create a mobile site for Wikidata
* displays the content in a layout that is more adequate for mobile devices
* retains different language versions
* Bonus: easy to edit

First step would be to figure out the exact technology to use, i.e. whether
it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with setting it
up on labs.

Cheers,
Denny


> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
> >
> >> I would hope
> >>
> >
> >  It would also be extremely good to look
> >>
> >
> > > I would assume
> >
> >  I don't think
> >>
> >
> > Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of your
> > knowledge to the questions at
> >
> > Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065<
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065>
> >
> > Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any answer more
> > precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to people in
> > those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a candidate
> like
> > Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and where the
> > complexity/simplicity relies.
> >
> > In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not encourage GSOC
> /
> > OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around August.
> >
> > Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance somewhere
> > with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know more
> about
> > the gap this project should fill?
> >
> > --
> > Quim Gil
> > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
> >
> >
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> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l>
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Brion Vibber
What you probably want to do is *integrate with* MobileFrontend, but keep
your code within WikiBase extension and friends.

There's provisions now for specifying desktop or mobile targets separately
in ResourceLoader, which will let you load either the same or different CSS
and JS for mobile views. You could also format your special pages
differently, but I recommend doing the differences in CSS and JS if you
can, to keep things clean.

But you could also detect that mobile view is in use and change the
formatting of a Special: page directly, for instance.

From what I remember, the base HTML of the data editing forms is relatively
straightforward, but might not fit well on small screens, so definitely
consider the user-interface needs of a ~320x480px screen when planning what
to do. :)

-- brion


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Denny Vrandečić <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2013/4/10 Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]>
>
> > Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on
> #wikimedia-mobile,
> > I've got a few things to add:
> >
> > - It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being accessed
> > through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and such of
> the
> > box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend.
> >
> > Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like Quim Gil
> > suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with trying
> > to make WIkidata mobile-friendly.
> >
> > If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be excellent but if
> > it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would make
> more
> > sense to make a completely new extension for it.
> >
> >
> I think that sounds like a good plan.
>
>
> > Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the moment, I
> think
> > that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with respect to
> the
> > GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the project
> > after GSoC ends.
> >
> >
> I am glad to hear that. But I think it would be important to scope the
> project so that it can be finished in GSoC time - but obviously, further
> work on it afterwards will be gladly appreciated.
>
> So, let's consider what should be working:
> * create a mobile site for Wikidata
> * displays the content in a layout that is more adequate for mobile devices
> * retains different language versions
> * Bonus: easy to edit
>
> First step would be to figure out the exact technology to use, i.e. whether
> it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with setting it
> up on labs.
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
>
>
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would hope
> > >>
> > >
> > >  It would also be extremely good to look
> > >>
> > >
> > > > I would assume
> > >
> > >  I don't think
> > >>
> > >
> > > Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of your
> > > knowledge to the questions at
> > >
> > > Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
> > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065<
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065>
> > >
> > > Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any answer
> more
> > > precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to people in
> > > those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a candidate
> > like
> > > Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and where the
> > > complexity/simplicity relies.
> > >
> > > In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not encourage
> GSOC
> > /
> > > OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around August.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance
> somewhere
> > > with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know more
> > about
> > > the gap this project should fill?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Quim Gil
> > > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
> > >
> > >
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> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > http://pragunbhutani.in
> > Skype : pragun.bhutani
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>
>
>
>
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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Jon Robson
I've been doing some work on refactoring the mobile skin.

In theory when I'm done doing this (I need some help code reviewing) you
would be able to write your own mobile skin with its own modules and own
scripts.... simply by extending some classes in MobileFrontend extension.

Does this sound appealing at all?
 On 17 Apr 2013 08:02, "Brion Vibber" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What you probably want to do is *integrate with* MobileFrontend, but keep
> your code within WikiBase extension and friends.
>
> There's provisions now for specifying desktop or mobile targets separately
> in ResourceLoader, which will let you load either the same or different CSS
> and JS for mobile views. You could also format your special pages
> differently, but I recommend doing the differences in CSS and JS if you
> can, to keep things clean.
>
> But you could also detect that mobile view is in use and change the
> formatting of a Special: page directly, for instance.
>
> From what I remember, the base HTML of the data editing forms is relatively
> straightforward, but might not fit well on small screens, so definitely
> consider the user-interface needs of a ~320x480px screen when planning what
> to do. :)
>
> -- brion
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Denny Vrandečić <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > 2013/4/10 Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]>
> >
> > > Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on
> > #wikimedia-mobile,
> > > I've got a few things to add:
> > >
> > > - It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being
> accessed
> > > through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and such of
> > the
> > > box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend.
> > >
> > > Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like Quim
> Gil
> > > suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with
> trying
> > > to make WIkidata mobile-friendly.
> > >
> > > If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be excellent but
> if
> > > it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would make
> > more
> > > sense to make a completely new extension for it.
> > >
> > >
> > I think that sounds like a good plan.
> >
> >
> > > Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the moment, I
> > think
> > > that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with respect to
> > the
> > > GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the
> project
> > > after GSoC ends.
> > >
> > >
> > I am glad to hear that. But I think it would be important to scope the
> > project so that it can be finished in GSoC time - but obviously, further
> > work on it afterwards will be gladly appreciated.
> >
> > So, let's consider what should be working:
> > * create a mobile site for Wikidata
> > * displays the content in a layout that is more adequate for mobile
> devices
> > * retains different language versions
> > * Bonus: easy to edit
> >
> > First step would be to figure out the exact technology to use, i.e.
> whether
> > it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with setting
> it
> > up on labs.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Denny
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I would hope
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >  It would also be extremely good to look
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > > I would assume
> > > >
> > > >  I don't think
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of your
> > > > knowledge to the questions at
> > > >
> > > > Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
> > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065<
> > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065>
> > > >
> > > > Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any answer
> > more
> > > > precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to people
> in
> > > > those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a
> candidate
> > > like
> > > > Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and where
> the
> > > > complexity/simplicity relies.
> > > >
> > > > In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not encourage
> > GSOC
> > > /
> > > > OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around August.
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance
> > somewhere
> > > > with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know more
> > > about
> > > > the gap this project should fill?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Quim Gil
> > > > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<
> > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pragun Bhutani
> > > http://pragunbhutani.in
> > > Skype : pragun.bhutani
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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Pragun Bhutani
I'll go ahead and request that Wikilabs account then. If I get stuck
somewhere, I'll revert back to you.

Also Jon, could you tell me a little more about your work on the skin? Is
it possible for me to view the code?

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Jon Robson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've been doing some work on refactoring the mobile skin.
>
> In theory when I'm done doing this (I need some help code reviewing) you
> would be able to write your own mobile skin with its own modules and own
> scripts.... simply by extending some classes in MobileFrontend extension.
>
> Does this sound appealing at all?
>  On 17 Apr 2013 08:02, "Brion Vibber" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > What you probably want to do is *integrate with* MobileFrontend, but keep
> > your code within WikiBase extension and friends.
> >
> > There's provisions now for specifying desktop or mobile targets
> separately
> > in ResourceLoader, which will let you load either the same or different
> CSS
> > and JS for mobile views. You could also format your special pages
> > differently, but I recommend doing the differences in CSS and JS if you
> > can, to keep things clean.
> >
> > But you could also detect that mobile view is in use and change the
> > formatting of a Special: page directly, for instance.
> >
> > From what I remember, the base HTML of the data editing forms is
> relatively
> > straightforward, but might not fit well on small screens, so definitely
> > consider the user-interface needs of a ~320x480px screen when planning
> what
> > to do. :)
> >
> > -- brion
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Denny Vrandečić <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > 2013/4/10 Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]>
> > >
> > > > Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on
> > > #wikimedia-mobile,
> > > > I've got a few things to add:
> > > >
> > > > - It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being
> > accessed
> > > > through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and such
> of
> > > the
> > > > box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like Quim
> > Gil
> > > > suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with
> > trying
> > > > to make WIkidata mobile-friendly.
> > > >
> > > > If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be excellent
> but
> > if
> > > > it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would make
> > > more
> > > > sense to make a completely new extension for it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I think that sounds like a good plan.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the moment, I
> > > think
> > > > that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with respect
> to
> > > the
> > > > GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the
> > project
> > > > after GSoC ends.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I am glad to hear that. But I think it would be important to scope the
> > > project so that it can be finished in GSoC time - but obviously,
> further
> > > work on it afterwards will be gladly appreciated.
> > >
> > > So, let's consider what should be working:
> > > * create a mobile site for Wikidata
> > > * displays the content in a layout that is more adequate for mobile
> > devices
> > > * retains different language versions
> > > * Bonus: easy to edit
> > >
> > > First step would be to figure out the exact technology to use, i.e.
> > whether
> > > it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with setting
> > it
> > > up on labs.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Denny
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I would hope
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >  It would also be extremely good to look
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > > I would assume
> > > > >
> > > > >  I don't think
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of
> your
> > > > > knowledge to the questions at
> > > > >
> > > > > Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
> > > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065<
> > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065>
> > > > >
> > > > > Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any answer
> > > more
> > > > > precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to people
> > in
> > > > > those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a
> > candidate
> > > > like
> > > > > Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and where
> > the
> > > > > complexity/simplicity relies.
> > > > >
> > > > > In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not encourage
> > > GSOC
> > > > /
> > > > > OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around
> August.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance
> > > somewhere
> > > > > with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know
> more
> > > > about
> > > > > the gap this project should fill?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Quim Gil
> > > > > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> > > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<
> > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Pragun Bhutani
> > > > http://pragunbhutani.in
> > > > Skype : pragun.bhutani
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> > > Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de
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> > unter
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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Jon Robson
Pragun: It's still a work in progress.

I personally think it would be great to have different mobile skins as
all our projects have different needs and don't necessarily need
to/should look the same or behave the same.

I'd happily work closely to you (help with code review etc) to support
such a move.

If you were to take this approach you'd create an extension that
depends on MobileFrontend and extends SkinMobile / SkinMobileBase
class overriding certain functions. In a LocalSettings.php you'd be
able to configure it as the default mobile skin on your wiki.

You can check out the current state of the code/my mind here:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/58997/

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'll go ahead and request that Wikilabs account then. If I get stuck
> somewhere, I'll revert back to you.
>
> Also Jon, could you tell me a little more about your work on the skin? Is
> it possible for me to view the code?
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Jon Robson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I've been doing some work on refactoring the mobile skin.
>>
>> In theory when I'm done doing this (I need some help code reviewing) you
>> would be able to write your own mobile skin with its own modules and own
>> scripts.... simply by extending some classes in MobileFrontend extension.
>>
>> Does this sound appealing at all?
>>  On 17 Apr 2013 08:02, "Brion Vibber" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > What you probably want to do is *integrate with* MobileFrontend, but keep
>> > your code within WikiBase extension and friends.
>> >
>> > There's provisions now for specifying desktop or mobile targets
>> separately
>> > in ResourceLoader, which will let you load either the same or different
>> CSS
>> > and JS for mobile views. You could also format your special pages
>> > differently, but I recommend doing the differences in CSS and JS if you
>> > can, to keep things clean.
>> >
>> > But you could also detect that mobile view is in use and change the
>> > formatting of a Special: page directly, for instance.
>> >
>> > From what I remember, the base HTML of the data editing forms is
>> relatively
>> > straightforward, but might not fit well on small screens, so definitely
>> > consider the user-interface needs of a ~320x480px screen when planning
>> what
>> > to do. :)
>> >
>> > -- brion
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Denny Vrandečić <
>> > [hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > 2013/4/10 Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]>
>> > >
>> > > > Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on
>> > > #wikimedia-mobile,
>> > > > I've got a few things to add:
>> > > >
>> > > > - It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being
>> > accessed
>> > > > through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and such
>> of
>> > > the
>> > > > box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend.
>> > > >
>> > > > Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like Quim
>> > Gil
>> > > > suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with
>> > trying
>> > > > to make WIkidata mobile-friendly.
>> > > >
>> > > > If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be excellent
>> but
>> > if
>> > > > it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would make
>> > > more
>> > > > sense to make a completely new extension for it.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > I think that sounds like a good plan.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the moment, I
>> > > think
>> > > > that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with respect
>> to
>> > > the
>> > > > GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the
>> > project
>> > > > after GSoC ends.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > I am glad to hear that. But I think it would be important to scope the
>> > > project so that it can be finished in GSoC time - but obviously,
>> further
>> > > work on it afterwards will be gladly appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > So, let's consider what should be working:
>> > > * create a mobile site for Wikidata
>> > > * displays the content in a layout that is more adequate for mobile
>> > devices
>> > > * retains different language versions
>> > > * Bonus: easy to edit
>> > >
>> > > First step would be to figure out the exact technology to use, i.e.
>> > whether
>> > > it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with setting
>> > it
>> > > up on labs.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Denny
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> I would hope
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >  It would also be extremely good to look
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I would assume
>> > > > >
>> > > > >  I don't think
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of
>> your
>> > > > > knowledge to the questions at
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
>> > > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065<
>> > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any answer
>> > > more
>> > > > > precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to people
>> > in
>> > > > > those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a
>> > candidate
>> > > > like
>> > > > > Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and where
>> > the
>> > > > > complexity/simplicity relies.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not encourage
>> > > GSOC
>> > > > /
>> > > > > OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around
>> August.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance
>> > > somewhere
>> > > > > with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know
>> more
>> > > > about
>> > > > > the gap this project should fill?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Quim Gil
>> > > > > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
>> > > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<
>> > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ______________________________**_________________
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>> > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Pragun Bhutani
>> > > > http://pragunbhutani.in
>> > > > Skype : pragun.bhutani
>> > > > _______________________________________________
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>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > > Project director Wikidata
>> > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin
>> > > Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de
>> > >
>> > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
>> > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
>> > unter
>> > > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
>> > > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Pragun Bhutani
So I've been trying to implement the suggestions and I think I'm one step
away from seeing results. I've got Wikibase and all its dependancies set
up, I've got mobile frontend installed (but commented out for the moment).

I can't figure out how to get some Wikidata style data on to my local
installation to see how it looks on a mobile though!

If somebody could point me in the right direction, I'll do that and will
set up a local tunnel to share the results (if any!).

That should give me some information and I should be able to draft a rough
proposal with the project needs!


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Jon Robson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Pragun: It's still a work in progress.
>
> I personally think it would be great to have different mobile skins as
> all our projects have different needs and don't necessarily need
> to/should look the same or behave the same.
>
> I'd happily work closely to you (help with code review etc) to support
> such a move.
>
> If you were to take this approach you'd create an extension that
> depends on MobileFrontend and extends SkinMobile / SkinMobileBase
> class overriding certain functions. In a LocalSettings.php you'd be
> able to configure it as the default mobile skin on your wiki.
>
> You can check out the current state of the code/my mind here:
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/58997/
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > I'll go ahead and request that Wikilabs account then. If I get stuck
> > somewhere, I'll revert back to you.
> >
> > Also Jon, could you tell me a little more about your work on the skin? Is
> > it possible for me to view the code?
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Jon Robson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> I've been doing some work on refactoring the mobile skin.
> >>
> >> In theory when I'm done doing this (I need some help code reviewing) you
> >> would be able to write your own mobile skin with its own modules and own
> >> scripts.... simply by extending some classes in MobileFrontend
> extension.
> >>
> >> Does this sound appealing at all?
> >>  On 17 Apr 2013 08:02, "Brion Vibber" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > What you probably want to do is *integrate with* MobileFrontend, but
> keep
> >> > your code within WikiBase extension and friends.
> >> >
> >> > There's provisions now for specifying desktop or mobile targets
> >> separately
> >> > in ResourceLoader, which will let you load either the same or
> different
> >> CSS
> >> > and JS for mobile views. You could also format your special pages
> >> > differently, but I recommend doing the differences in CSS and JS if
> you
> >> > can, to keep things clean.
> >> >
> >> > But you could also detect that mobile view is in use and change the
> >> > formatting of a Special: page directly, for instance.
> >> >
> >> > From what I remember, the base HTML of the data editing forms is
> >> relatively
> >> > straightforward, but might not fit well on small screens, so
> definitely
> >> > consider the user-interface needs of a ~320x480px screen when planning
> >> what
> >> > to do. :)
> >> >
> >> > -- brion
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Denny Vrandečić <
> >> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > 2013/4/10 Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]>
> >> > >
> >> > > > Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on
> >> > > #wikimedia-mobile,
> >> > > > I've got a few things to add:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being
> >> > accessed
> >> > > > through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and
> such
> >> of
> >> > > the
> >> > > > box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like
> Quim
> >> > Gil
> >> > > > suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with
> >> > trying
> >> > > > to make WIkidata mobile-friendly.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be excellent
> >> but
> >> > if
> >> > > > it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would
> make
> >> > > more
> >> > > > sense to make a completely new extension for it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > I think that sounds like a good plan.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the
> moment, I
> >> > > think
> >> > > > that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with
> respect
> >> to
> >> > > the
> >> > > > GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the
> >> > project
> >> > > > after GSoC ends.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > I am glad to hear that. But I think it would be important to scope
> the
> >> > > project so that it can be finished in GSoC time - but obviously,
> >> further
> >> > > work on it afterwards will be gladly appreciated.
> >> > >
> >> > > So, let's consider what should be working:
> >> > > * create a mobile site for Wikidata
> >> > > * displays the content in a layout that is more adequate for mobile
> >> > devices
> >> > > * retains different language versions
> >> > > * Bonus: easy to edit
> >> > >
> >> > > First step would be to figure out the exact technology to use, i.e.
> >> > whether
> >> > > it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with
> setting
> >> > it
> >> > > up on labs.
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > > Denny
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> I would hope
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >  It would also be extremely good to look
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I would assume
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >  I don't think
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of
> >> your
> >> > > > > knowledge to the questions at
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking)
> >> > > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065<
> >> > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any
> answer
> >> > > more
> >> > > > > precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to
> people
> >> > in
> >> > > > > those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a
> >> > candidate
> >> > > > like
> >> > > > > Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and
> where
> >> > the
> >> > > > > complexity/simplicity relies.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not
> encourage
> >> > > GSOC
> >> > > > /
> >> > > > > OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around
> >> August.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance
> >> > > somewhere
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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]> wrote:
> So I've been trying to implement the suggestions and I think I'm one step
> away from seeing results. I've got Wikibase and all its dependancies set
> up, I've got mobile frontend installed (but commented out for the moment).

Sweet!

> I can't figure out how to get some Wikidata style data on to my local
> installation to see how it looks on a mobile though!
>
> If somebody could point me in the right direction, I'll do that and will
> set up a local tunnel to share the results (if any!).
>
> That should give me some information and I should be able to draft a rough
> proposal with the project needs!

I take it you talked to Denny on IRC and this is all solved now. Let
me know if not please.
Looking forward to reading your proposal.


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Re: Ideating on GSoC project : Mobilize Wikidata

Pragun Bhutani
It's all solved now yes. And I have a working model based on those
suggestions already. Will share a rough proposal in a couple of hours! :)

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Pragun Bhutani <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > So I've been trying to implement the suggestions and I think I'm one step
> > away from seeing results. I've got Wikibase and all its dependancies set
> > up, I've got mobile frontend installed (but commented out for the
> moment).
>
> Sweet!
>
> > I can't figure out how to get some Wikidata style data on to my local
> > installation to see how it looks on a mobile though!
> >
> > If somebody could point me in the right direction, I'll do that and will
> > set up a local tunnel to share the results (if any!).
> >
> > That should give me some information and I should be able to draft a
> rough
> > proposal with the project needs!
>
> I take it you talked to Denny on IRC and this is all solved now. Let
> me know if not please.
> Looking forward to reading your proposal.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
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