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Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

I am planning to start a twitter account posting one DYK fact related to India everyday and a link to the article using a script.There are currently 1200+ DYK articles related to India and i have wrote a script to parse the talk pages and got around 800+ DYK hooks (my script's regex can be improved and am working on that to get all 1200+ hooks). I need your help to further format the hooks to 120 chars, so that it fits into twitter limit and maintain the tweet queue(just like DYK queue), so that my script can post on twitter without manual intervention.

I think this could give a boost to visibility and page views of DYK articles having good content which otherwise recieve fairly low page views which happens only through search since quite a few of them are poorly linked.If this is successfull we could probably even use it over free sms service.(now that GPRS is getting cheap and penetration is increasing) People following get to know trivia and also might give some sort of satisfaction to the DYK creators.

If you could spare some time in helping with maintaining the tweet queue, please mail me offlist, we could work on that.

Thoughts / Suggestions on the idea is welcome. Suggestions for the twitter account name is also welcome. :) 

Regards,
Srikanth L

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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Gerard Meijssen-3
Hoi,
Submit the text using Twitterfeed. It will automatically include a "bit.ly" url at the end. I use it when I post my blog to include a tweet.
Thanks,
      GerardM

PS Nice idea :)

On 7 August 2010 11:07, Srikanth Lakshmanan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

I am planning to start a twitter account posting one DYK fact related to India everyday and a link to the article using a script.There are currently 1200+ DYK articles related to India and i have wrote a script to parse the talk pages and got around 800+ DYK hooks (my script's regex can be improved and am working on that to get all 1200+ hooks). I need your help to further format the hooks to 120 chars, so that it fits into twitter limit and maintain the tweet queue(just like DYK queue), so that my script can post on twitter without manual intervention.

I think this could give a boost to visibility and page views of DYK articles having good content which otherwise recieve fairly low page views which happens only through search since quite a few of them are poorly linked.If this is successfull we could probably even use it over free sms service.(now that GPRS is getting cheap and penetration is increasing) People following get to know trivia and also might give some sort of satisfaction to the DYK creators.

If you could spare some time in helping with maintaining the tweet queue, please mail me offlist, we could work on that.

Thoughts / Suggestions on the idea is welcome. Suggestions for the twitter account name is also welcome. :) 

Regards,
Srikanth L

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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Srikanth Lakshmanan


On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hoi,
Submit the text using Twitterfeed. It will automatically include a "bit.ly" url at the end. I use it when I post my blog to include a tweet.

I actually thought of this first (So that there is not need to format the hook to 120 chars) and post it on a blog and pipe it to twitter, but general mentality would be people will only the first link from twitter(from what ever client) and would close the browser and would never visit wikipedia page. My script would use bit.ly api and embeds the link to wikipedia article itself with the 120 char text to post to twitter through its api.
 
PS Nice idea :)
Thanks :) 

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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

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Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts, KnowIndia, DYKIndia.

- Sundar
 
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From: Srikanth Lakshmanan <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 2:37:58 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Hi all,

I am planning to start a twitter account posting one DYK fact related to India everyday and a link to the article using a script.There are currently 1200+ DYK articles related to India and i have wrote a script to parse the talk pages and got around 800+ DYK hooks (my script's regex can be improved and am working on that to get all 1200+ hooks). I need your help to further format the hooks to 120 chars, so that it fits into twitter limit and maintain the tweet queue(just like DYK queue), so that my script can post on twitter without manual intervention.

I think this could give a boost to visibility and page views of DYK articles having good content which otherwise recieve fairly low page views which happens only through search since quite a few of them are poorly linked.If this is successfull we could probably even use it over free sms service.(now that GPRS is getting cheap and penetration is increasing) People following get to know trivia and also might give some sort of satisfaction to the DYK creators.

If you could spare some time in helping with maintaining the tweet queue, please mail me offlist, we could work on that.

Thoughts / Suggestions on the idea is welcome. Suggestions for the twitter account name is also welcome. :) 

Regards,
Srikanth L

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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Srik, I thought it was 140? Or are you deducting 20 for the link?
Regards, Srik.

On 7 August 2010 18:53, BalaSundaraRaman <[hidden email]> wrote:
Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts, KnowIndia, DYKIndia.

- Sundar
 
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture



From: Srikanth Lakshmanan <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 2:37:58 PM
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Hi all,

I am planning to start a twitter account posting one DYK fact related to India everyday and a link to the article using a script.There are currently 1200+ DYK articles related to India and i have wrote a script to parse the talk pages and got around 800+ DYK hooks (my script's regex can be improved and am working on that to get all 1200+ hooks). I need your help to further format the hooks to 120 chars, so that it fits into twitter limit and maintain the tweet queue(just like DYK queue), so that my script can post on twitter without manual intervention.

I think this could give a boost to visibility and page views of DYK articles having good content which otherwise recieve fairly low page views which happens only through search since quite a few of them are poorly linked.If this is successfull we could probably even use it over free sms service.(now that GPRS is getting cheap and penetration is increasing) People following get to know trivia and also might give some sort of satisfaction to the DYK creators.

If you could spare some time in helping with maintaining the tweet queue, please mail me offlist, we could work on that.

Thoughts / Suggestions on the idea is welcome. Suggestions for the twitter account name is also welcome. :) 

Regards,
Srikanth L

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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

I have created a shared document from where hooks will be read by the script. Currently it has 574 hooks, i would relook the scrapper script and would keep adding more to the hook preparation area. The spreadsheet is open to edit and please feel free to help.

GDocs Link :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Srik, I thought it was 140? Or are you deducting 20 for the link?
Yes 20 chars is for link. As you see above j.mp (bit.ly's brother) takes 18 chars and add 2 spaces.
 
On 7 August 2010 18:53, BalaSundaraRaman <[hidden email]> wrote: 
Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts, KnowIndia, DYKIndia.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Regards,
Srikanth L

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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi all,

We launched this one in #WPMBL17. The twitter account is @DYKIndia. Thanks Sundar for the handle suggestion, this seems short and crisp :)

GDocs Tweet Queue :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3

Both of the code and tweet queue are open, and please feel free to contribute to them.

We had discussions on topics surrounding this at the meetup and I will summarize them below.

1. This can be on any subject and can be used by many projects like History, Medicine, Countries, etc if there are people to manage the tweet queue.
2. It would make more successful if the "manual tweet queue" maintenance process is done away with and ask WP:DYK to provide short version of hooks as well going forward. -- Need to go through a proposal i guess. Will be working on this in sometime after gauging the success of this. But counter arguments also came for this and sometimes its better if its manual.
3. Similar app can also used to tweet daily DYKs on a hourly basis and can be face of "Whats new on Wikipedia" in social media.
4. Possibility of exploring usage of this into Indian languages,challanges like char limit, availability. Need to work on this as well.
5. Possibility of tie-up with mobile operator and making it as a VAS, where in operator gets money, we get outreach / publicity -- Can be taken as a chapter outreach activity once that is formed.

Special thanks to twitter mass hero Tinucherian, we already have 88(and counting) followers and from stats i could see 20 have visited the article(best thing about bitly). We need to observe how the stats go, whats the best time to tweet etc.

Code has some TODOs yet to make it more generic and comprehensive which i would be working on over next weekend.Python folks feel free to review since its my first python code.

Thanks for your support and expecting few RTs from you ;)

Regards,
Srikanth L

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I have created a shared document from where hooks will be read by the script. Currently it has 574 hooks, i would relook the scrapper script and would keep adding more to the hook preparation area. The spreadsheet is open to edit and please feel free to help.

GDocs Link :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Srik, I thought it was 140? Or are you deducting 20 for the link?
Yes 20 chars is for link. As you see above j.mp (bit.ly's brother) takes 18 chars and add 2 spaces.
 
On 7 August 2010 18:53, BalaSundaraRaman <[hidden email]> wrote: 
Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts, KnowIndia, DYKIndia.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Regards,
Srikanth L


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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

BalaSundaraRaman
Congrats once again, Srikanth. Just a thought, shouldn't you keep another private queue (from which the script feeds on) which you populate from the public queue after sanity checking?

- Sundar
 
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture



From: Srikanth Lakshmanan <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 2:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Hi all,

We launched this one in #WPMBL17. The twitter account is @DYKIndia. Thanks Sundar for the handle suggestion, this seems short and crisp :)

GDocs Tweet Queue :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3

Both of the code and tweet queue are open, and please feel free to contribute to them.

We had discussions on topics surrounding this at the meetup and I will summarize them below.

1. This can be on any subject and can be used by many projects like History, Medicine, Countries, etc if there are people to manage the tweet queue.
2. It would make more successful if the "manual tweet queue" maintenance process is done away with and ask WP:DYK to provide short version of hooks as well going forward. -- Need to go through a proposal i guess. Will be working on this in sometime after gauging the success of this. But counter arguments also came for this and sometimes its better if its manual.
3. Similar app can also used to tweet daily DYKs on a hourly basis and can be face of "Whats new on Wikipedia" in social media.
4. Possibility of exploring usage of this into Indian languages,challanges like char limit, availability. Need to work on this as well.
5. Possibility of tie-up with mobile operator and making it as a VAS, where in operator gets money, we get outreach / publicity -- Can be taken as a chapter outreach activity once that is formed.

Special thanks to twitter mass hero Tinucherian, we already have 88(and counting) followers and from stats i could see 20 have visited the article(best thing about bitly). We need to observe how the stats go, whats the best time to tweet etc.

Code has some TODOs yet to make it more generic and comprehensive which i would be working on over next weekend.Python folks feel free to review since its my first python code.

Thanks for your support and expecting few RTs from you ;)

Regards,
Srikanth L

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I have created a shared document from where hooks will be read by the script. Currently it has 574 hooks, i would relook the scrapper script and would keep adding more to the hook preparation area. The spreadsheet is open to edit and please feel free to help.

GDocs Link :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Srik, I thought it was 140? Or are you deducting 20 for the link?
Yes 20 chars is for link. As you see above j.mp (bit.ly's brother) takes 18 chars and add 2 spaces.
 
On 7 August 2010 18:53, BalaSundaraRaman <[hidden email]> wrote: 
Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts, KnowIndia, DYKIndia.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Regards,
Srikanth L


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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

guru brahma
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Dear Srikanth,
 
good to see this initiative. I used to be among the most active Indian contributors to DYK in 2005-06.
 
Cheers,
Srinivas.
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From: Srikanth Lakshmanan <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tue, 17 August, 2010 2:24:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Hi all,

We launched this one in #WPMBL17. The twitter account is @DYKIndia. Thanks Sundar for the handle suggestion, this seems short and crisp :)

GDocs Tweet Queue :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3

Both of the code and tweet queue are open, and please feel free to contribute to them.

We had discussions on topics surrounding this at the meetup and I will summarize them below.

1. This can be on any subject and can be used by many projects like History, Medicine, Countries, etc if there are people to manage the tweet queue.
2. It would make more successful if the "manual tweet queue" maintenance process is done away with and ask WP:DYK to provide short version of hooks as well going forward. -- Need to go through a proposal i guess. Will be working on this in sometime after gauging the success of this. But counter arguments also came for this and sometimes its better if its manual.
3. Similar app can also used to tweet daily DYKs on a hourly basis and can be face of "Whats new on Wikipedia" in social media.
4. Possibility of exploring usage of this into Indian languages,challanges like char limit, availability. Need to work on this as well.
5. Possibility of tie-up with mobile operator and making it as a VAS, where in operator gets money, we get outreach / publicity -- Can be taken as a chapter outreach activity once that is formed.

Special thanks to twitter mass hero Tinucherian, we already have 88(and counting) followers and from stats i could see 20 have visited the article(best thing about bitly). We need to observe how the stats go, whats the best time to tweet etc.

Code has some TODOs yet to make it more generic and comprehensive which i would be working on over next weekend.Python folks feel free to review since its my first python code.

Thanks for your support and expecting few RTs from you ;)

Regards,
Srikanth L

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I have created a shared document from where hooks will be read by the script. Currently it has 574 hooks, i would relook the scrapper script and would keep adding more to the hook preparation area. The spreadsheet is open to edit and please feel free to help.

GDocs Link :- http://j.mp/a4ayc3

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Srik, I thought it was 140? Or are you deducting 20 for the link?
Yes 20 chars is for link. As you see above j.mp (bit.ly's brother) takes 18 chars and add 2 spaces.
 
On 7 August 2010 18:53, BalaSundaraRaman <[hidden email]> wrote: 
Excellent idea, Srikanth! Some twitter handles I could think: IndiaFacts, KnowIndia, DYKIndia.
Thanks for the suggestions.

Regards,
Srikanth L



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Re: Indian DYK (trivia) from Wikipedia on twitter.

Srikanth Lakshmanan


On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:16 AM, guru brahma <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Srikanth,
 
good to see this initiative. I used to be among the most active Indian contributors to DYK in 2005-06.

Hi Srinivas, 

This is possible only because of efforts of DYK contributors like you. I know how tough it is since i struggled to add one DYK last year. On a related note, number of Indian DYKs created are coming down these days and we need more awareness among contributors to increase this count.

Regards,
Srikanth L

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