# [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement

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## [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement

 I've just finished preparing the first release candidate for MediaWiki 1.21 and I'd like your help testing it before the final release. Please download the release candidate and test it.  If you find any bugs please report them on Bugzilla[1] and make sure I am added as a CC so that we can fix any show-stoppers before the final release. Finally, if you could also look over https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21, I'll be using an edited version of that to make the final announcement.  If you spot problems or areas that could use clarification, your help in improving it would be appreciated. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki&cc=mah@...&version=1.21-gitFull release notes: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.21********************************************************************** Download: http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.tar.gzPatch to previous version (1.20.0), without interface text: http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.patch.gzInterface text changes: http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc1.patch.gzGPG signatures: http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.tar.gz.sighttp://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.patch.gz.sighttp://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc1.patch.gz.sigPublic keys: https://secure.wikimedia.org/keys.html_______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 (Trimming reply to you and mediawiki-l so we don't continue to spam people.) On 04/01/2013 12:00 PM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: > but I cannot find the executable mysql, mentioned in the manuals, > and command mysql "is not found". I have no idea, what do I wrong. > Shold I continue searching for a way to activate the MySQL > before to install MediaWiki 1.21.0 ? Yes, you need a database installed.  Someone with OS X experience can probably help you better than I can. > I think, PDFs are good and sufficient. > Is it that mentioned in the section "High-resolution image support" ? > (formally, as PDF, as EPS have infinite resolution..) "High-resolution image support" is talking about, as the announcement points out, serving higher resolution images to high-density display's like Apple's Retina display. -- http://hexmode.com/[We are] immortal ... because [we have] a soul, a spirit capable of    compassion and sacrifice and endurance.         -- William Faulker, Nobel Prize acceptance speech _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Mark A. Hershberger <[hidden email]>wrote: > On 04/01/2013 12:00 PM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: > > but I cannot find the executable mysql, mentioned in the manuals, > > and command mysql "is not found". I have no idea, what do I wrong. > > Shold I continue searching for a way to activate the MySQL > > before to install MediaWiki 1.21.0 ? > > Yes, you need a database installed.  Someone with OS X experience can > probably help you better than I can. > I run a test instance on my OS X machine (currently 10.8.3). I use the MySQL installer package from dev.mysql.com -- try < http://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQL-5.6/mysql-5.6.10-osx10.7-x86_64.dmg/from/http://cdn.mysql.com/> Double-click and run the installer; also double-click the preferences pane to install that, it makes it easy to start and stop the MySQL server. This will install the 'mysql' command into /usr/local/mysql/bin so you might need to add a line like this to your ~/.profile file:   export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/mysql/bin Note that you may also need to adjust /etc/php.ini and add a line like: mysql.default_socket=/tmp/mysql.sock for the Apple-provided PHP to see MySQL properly. You may need to stop and restart the web server after adjusting php.ini. > > I think, PDFs are good and sufficient. > You'll want to support upload of PDFs; by default this will rasterize the PDFs for inline display, so you don't need a browser plugin. The extension depends on some external Unix programs as mentioned on that page, you should be able to install them through HomeBrew or MacPorts. -- brion _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l Reply | Threaded Open this post in threaded view | ## Re: MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement  Dear Brion. I follow your suggestion. I got file /Users/d/Downloads/mysql-5.6.10-osx10.7-x86_64.dmg At the double-click on it (in the "finder frame"), the new frame appears with four icons. they correspond to the following files: /Volumes/mysql-5.6.10-osx10.7-x86_64/mysql-5.6.10-osx10.7-x86_64.pkg /Volumes/mysql-5.6.10-osx10.7-x86_64/MySQL.prefPane /Volumes/mysql-5.6.10-osx10.7-x86_64/MySQLStartupItem.pkg /Volumes/mysql-5.6.10-osx10.7-x86_64/ReadMe.txt I try to double-click on each of them. The frame with error message appears: "MySQL-prefPane can't be opeed because it is from am unidentified developer" Perhaps, this is case mentioned in file "ReadMe.txt" : If this error occurs, simply click the Go Back' button once to return to the previous screen. Then click Continue' to advance to the destination disk selection again, and you should be able to choose the destination disk correctly. We have reported this bug to Apple and it is investigating this problem. However, I cannot find the option 'Go Back', nor `Continue'; yet, there is nothing about MySQL at /usr/local Shat do I wrong? ============================= On Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Mark A. Hershberger <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 04/01/2013 12:00 PM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: > > but I cannot find the executable mysql, mentioned in the manuals, > > and command mysql "is not found". I have no idea, what do I wrong. > > Shold I continue searching for a way to activate the MySQL > > before to install MediaWiki 1.21.0 ? > > Yes, you need a database installed. Someone with OS X experience can > probably help you better than I can. > > > I run a test instance on my OS X machine (currently 10.8.3). I use the MySQL installer package from dev.mysql.com -- try > > > Double-click and run the installer; also double-click the preferences pane to install that, it makes it easy to start and > stop the MySQL server. > > This will install the 'mysql' command into /usr/local/mysql/bin so you might need to add a line like this to your > ~/.profile file: > > export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/mysql/bin > > Note that you may also need to adjust /etc/php.ini and add a line like: > >   mysql.default_socket=/tmp/mysql.sock > > for the Apple-provided PHP to see MySQL properly. You may need to stop and restart the web server after adjusting php.ini. > > >       > I think, PDFs are good and sufficient. > > > You'll want to support upload of PDFs; by default this will rasterize > the PDFs for inline display, so you don't need a browser plugin. The extension depends on some external Unix programs as > mentioned on that page, you should be able to install them through HomeBrew or MacPorts. > > -- brion > > >_______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 In reply to this post by Mark A. Hershberger-2 In order to test the MediaWiki version 1.21 I still try to install MySQL. Perhaps, I repeat some error again and again, but I cannot catch it.. While I filled the quiz at http://www.w3schools.com/quiztest/quiztest.asp?qtest=SQLW3Schools SQL Quiz Result: 20 of 20 // 100%  Perfect!!! Time Spent 4:40. Of course, I still cannot execute any example from the quiz, the sytem cannot find MySQL! I think, the questions of the quiz should be reformulated. I suggest the following questions for the quiz: 1. How many different sites pretend to distribute MySQL? Possible answers: (from 1 to 3, from 4 to 10, from 11 to 100) 2. How many different sites distribute workable versions of MySQL? Possible answers: (1, 2, more than 2) 3. How many keys and bottoms should one press in order to get the workable version of MySQL? Possible answers: (from 5 to 10, from 11 to 100, from 1001 to 10000) 4. How many of them can be found in the documentation? Possible answers: (from 2 to 5, from 6 to 10, from 11 to 10000) 5. Where does MySQL load the databases by defailt? Possible answers: ( /mysql/data , /usr/mysqldata, directory with randomly choosen name) 6. Where should these databases be stored in order to be usable by Mediawiki? ( /mysql/data , /usr/mediawiki/mysql, anywhere) 7. Where does the Mediawiki keep its database? ( /mediawiki/data , /usr/mediawiki/mysql/data, directory with random name) 8. Is it possible to access these databases directly from MySQL? (Yes, it is easy; Yes, but it is very difficuylt; No WAY!) 9. Is it necessary to learn MySQL in order to install a workable version of Mediawiki? (Yes, one shouild take one year course of MySQL before to have any hopes for the successful installation; No, one can do it within few days, within less than a hundred of attempts) 10. What for does Xcode load so many files related to MySQL? (At the good skills of Xcode and MySQL, these files still can be used; This is simulation of ubdate with respect to the previous version) ========== _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 On 04/02/2013 02:51 AM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: > While I filled the quiz at > http://www.w3schools.com/quiztest/quiztest.asp?qtest=SQL  > I think, the questions of the quiz should be reformulated. > I suggest the following questions for the quiz: I'm  not sure why you're telling us this.  This mailing list is about MediaWiki, not MySQL or W3Schools' website. Brion has already offered you some pointers for setting up your system. Did those help? -- http://hexmode.com/[We are] immortal ... because [we have] a soul, a spirit capable of    compassion and sacrifice and endurance.         -- William Faulker, Nobel Prize acceptance speech _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: >>.. I suggest the following questions for the quiz: > I'm  not sure why you're telling us this.  This mailing list is about > MediaWiki, not MySQL or W3Schools' website. Sorry. I just wanted to test the Wiki you suggest, and I need to have PHP and MySQL ready. I did not expect that I'll have to learn PHP and MySQL; I expected the Mediawiki to do all the technical job. > Brion has already offered you some pointers for setting up your system. > Did those help? Not. I even thout that that was the April-Full joke. Following Brion's instruction, I got the packages; When I tried to open the package, there was error message ".. cannot be opened because it is from unidentified developer." and nothing seems to be installed from there. Now I try to get the MySQL through "Oracle": There is very small, barely readable line that begins with words "No thanks.."; that line happened to be the key. Tomorrow I'll check it; then I  hope to get MySQL and then I try to test the  MediaWiki 1.21.0. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 On 04/04/2013 10:37 AM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: > Files loaded > http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.tar.gz> seem to be the same as offered at > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_Git> Is it so? The tarball has some bundled extensions that I don't think come when you use the second link.  See the extensions directory. > The place to put these files is difficult to guess. > No simple algorithm to choose this place is presented. > The descriptions at mediawiki.org cited suggest several screens of > speculations about, but it is difficult to apply them practically. I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. You've mentioned before that you're running MAMP on OS X, I think.  I'm not sure where its webroot is. > The simple recommendation should be placed at the top, > indicating, where should the beginner put the files in > order to get workable (and preferably, robust and stable) wiki-site. That would be ideal, yes.  I'm not sure how applicable that is given the variety of platforms MediaWiki runs on.  For example, on many Linux platforms /var/www/wiki or ~/public_html/wiki would be a good location.  I don't think either of those locations would work for Windows or most OS X users. > Also, consider to specify the requirements mentioned at file INSTALL at > the preamble of the articles in Mediawiki. > You could provide some tests, how the beginner can guess, does he/she > have the PHP and/or MySQL or not. > The test should not force the user to learn PHP and MySQL > in order to understand, do they run well or not. Your perspective on all this is fascinating to me.  I haven't really considered that someone without a little basic PHP/MySQL knowledge would try to install MediaWiki. I really appreciate all the insight you've given me so far.  But I have to ask, what is your motivation for installing MediaWiki?  What are you trying to accomplish? -- http://hexmode.com/[We are] immortal ... because [we have] a soul, a spirit capable of    compassion and sacrifice and endurance.         -- William Faulker, Nobel Prize acceptance speech _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:30:54 -0700, Dmitrii Kouznetsov   <[hidden email]> wrote: >> What are you trying to accomplish? > I need to learn to install Mediawiki by myself. I have server for it. Btw, installing this stuff on a server is generally much different than   installing it on your local machine. Generally you use a some type of   linux on the server which usually has a nice package manager to help you   out. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 On 04/05/2013 12:43 AM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:30:54 -0700, Dmitrii Kouznetsov > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> What are you trying to accomplish? >> I need to learn to install Mediawiki by myself. I have server for it. > > Btw, installing this stuff on a server is generally much different than > installing it on your local machine. Generally you use a some type of > linux on the server which usually has a nice package manager to help you > out. > What sort of server do you have?  If it is a Linux system there are probably packages out there already.  We've been working with Debian developers so that you should just have to run "apt-get install mediawiki" to install MediaWiki. We haven't worked as closely yet with Red Hat based distributions, but you should still be able to do something like "yum install mediawiki". If the above doesn't help you, maybe if you tell us about your server, we can provide more help. -- http://hexmode.com/[We are] immortal ... because [we have] a soul, a spirit capable of    compassion and sacrifice and endurance.         -- William Faulker, Nobel Prize acceptance speech _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 In reply to this post by Mark A. Hershberger-2 Dear Mark. I have installed the mediawiki 1.21 and I am testing it. More comments about installing: 1. Setting of default host is tricky: one needs to guess, that for OS X, the correct value is 127.0.0.1. (as for Windows) 2. I think, the default setting should include the most popular extensions. You may consider to include Typing of formulas, Use of images (including *.pdf), and Citing of references into the default installation. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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 Hello, Mark. I continue testing the 1.21 version. The default installation seems to work; however, it does not support formula typing, nor references nor the short url. I see neither "short URL" nor MathJax" among the "extensions" you syggest; so, I insgtall again. This time, I choose all the extensions offered. I Expected that some of them provide the required options. The extensions seem to conflict; I get message [6ea7a99f] 2013-04-06 14:22:46: Fatal exception of type MWException Sincerely, Dima. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l