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[Mediawiki-l] Thoughts on Sales Pitch

Dr. Nancy Dailey
My "elevator speech" to executives and leaders in companies about the use of wikis tends to focus on the pain they feel about knowledge sharing, knowledge transfer and problem solving. I'm an applied sociologist (not a technical person:) who helps people adopt/integrate technology solutions into their daily work life.

Example... I have a media research client who has a core group of baby boomers who have been with the company for 30-40 years. These folks are the brain trust of the company and they're ready to retire. They are launching a wiki to try to capture all that knowledge and not let it walk out the door. It's a low cost option to pilot a new way of solving a complex problem. If it doesn't work, they can always go back to MS Sharepoint (which hasn't worked real well for them in the past).

Your sales pitch should aim 1) to solve a problem executives see as a priority; 2) show how the return exceeds the perceived and real risks; 3) how it may help the corporate culture, not hurt it, and 4) most importantly, how it will help the bottom-line.

Hope this helps. I learn a lot about wikis from reading the emails. Thank you!
Nancy Dailey
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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Thoughts on Sales Pitch

Ittay Dror-rm
here are my points:
* a wiki allows creation of documentation in an easy way. writing documentation in a manual document means concepts need to be described in a linear stream, which is not easy. doing it in a CMS system is cumbersome. in a wiki, you write a concept and if it relates to another, you put in the text [[another concept]]. then, when you submit, you click on the resulting link and describe the related concept.
* plugins and templates allow you to create a standardization of your documents and ways to easily create it.
* it allows a reflection mechanism - see what documents relate to a given one for example. in this respect, i recommend the semantic mediawiki extension

Dr. Nancy Dailey wrote:

> My "elevator speech" to executives and leaders in companies about the use of wikis tends to focus on the pain they feel about knowledge sharing, knowledge transfer and problem solving. I'm an applied sociologist (not a technical person:) who helps people adopt/integrate technology solutions into their daily work life.
>
> Example... I have a media research client who has a core group of baby boomers who have been with the company for 30-40 years. These folks are the brain trust of the company and they're ready to retire. They are launching a wiki to try to capture all that knowledge and not let it walk out the door. It's a low cost option to pilot a new way of solving a complex problem. If it doesn't work, they can always go back to MS Sharepoint (which hasn't worked real well for them in the past).
>
> Your sales pitch should aim 1) to solve a problem executives see as a priority; 2) show how the return exceeds the perceived and real risks; 3) how it may help the corporate culture, not hurt it, and 4) most importantly, how it will help the bottom-line.
>
> Hope this helps. I learn a lot about wikis from reading the emails. Thank you!
> Nancy Dailey
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>      4. Re: Special:Recentchanges isn't reflecting the updates
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jdd
Ittay Dror wrote:
> here are my points:

  in a linear stream, which is not easy. doing it in a CMS
system is cumbersome.

  in a wiki, you write a concept and if it relates to
another, you put
  in the text [[another concept]]. then, when you submit,
you click on the resulting link

in some words, it's an dynamic hypertex system.

in an hypertext, some words are linked to other pages.
in a wiki such links are instantly made as of writing,
anybody can write and add his part

however the hyper linked page is not created at the moment.

if I can give my opinion, if you try to advocate the wiki
(or anything else), it's a good idea to

* give a very short summary like the words here
* then list and comment all the problems: some syntax, need
help from others, not sure to come, need some administration
(vandalism, security, sysops...)
* after that, only, list and discuss all the advantages.
ease of use, simpleness of basis editing (fixing typos...),
ease of collective (team) work...
* give a very short conclusion: we can manage the problems
and we need the advantages, here is a test site and a short
help document (prepare a one page pdf document about wiki
syntax)

be short (not more than a half an hour) and you can win :-))

jdd


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[Mediawiki-l] Exporting from WP

Metaspheres
Greetings and Happy New Year!

I have a question: The export feature on WP only allows up to 100 revisions to be exported, and if an article has more than 100 revisions, it will only give the first 100. Alright, now let us say there is an article with 5000 revisions. Is it possible to retrieve every single one of those 5000 edits through export? For instance, would I be able to retrieve them in batches of 100 each? And if so, how?

The example parameters on the MediaWiki site by Tim Starling unfortunately do not work. For instance, with the two examples he provides for the Main Page of WP, it only brings up the single most recent edit.

If the export feature cannot handle this, is there any other way for me to retrieve the full history of an article from WP and import into my wiki?

Much thanks,

Sven

 
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Frederik Dohr
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Thanks for the feedback everyone!

I will have to push back this presentation a little because of another
task that's come up and needs to be completed first.
But as soon as that's done, I'll get back to creating this presentation.

Once I got the first draft, I might put up a wiki page somewhere (e.g.
at http://scratchpad.wikia.com) so anyone can add his thoughts.


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