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Brion Vibber
I've set up a SVN account for Greg Sabino Mullane (username 'greg'). Greg has
contributed some patches for fixing up PostgreSQL support and will be doing some
further improvements in that area.

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Re: New SVN committer

Jay Ashworth-2
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 04:14:08PM -0700, Brion Vibber wrote:
> I've set up a SVN account for Greg Sabino Mullane (username 'greg').
> Greg has contributed some patches for fixing up PostgreSQL support and
> will be doing some further improvements in that area.

Greg is my new hero.

Greg, if you need anyone to test stuff, you let me know, ok?

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Re: New SVN committer

Brion Vibber
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And another:

David McCabe ('david') will be implementing threaded discussion support
(LiquidThreads) as one of our two Google Summer of Code projects.

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Re: New SVN committer

Erik Moeller-3
On 5/25/06, Brion Vibber <[hidden email]> wrote:
> David McCabe ('david') will be implementing threaded discussion support
> (LiquidThreads) as one of our two Google Summer of Code projects.

Nice. Let me know if I can be of help during the development of this.

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Re: New SVN committer

Arne 'Timwi' Heizmann
Erik Moeller wrote:
> On 5/25/06, Brion Vibber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>David McCabe ('david') will be implementing threaded discussion support
>>(LiquidThreads) as one of our two Google Summer of Code projects.
>
> Nice. Let me know if I can be of help during the development of this.

I am also interested in helping with this, especially testing.

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Re: New SVN committer

Elliott F. Cable
Ditto below.

On May 26, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Timwi wrote:

> Erik Moeller wrote:
>> On 5/25/06, Brion Vibber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> David McCabe ('david') will be implementing threaded discussion  
>>> support
>>> (LiquidThreads) as one of our two Google Summer of Code projects.
>>
>> Nice. Let me know if I can be of help during the development of this.
>
> I am also interested in helping with this, especially testing.
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Re: New SVN committer

David McCabe
Hi, folks. Thanks much for the offers of help. I hadn't yet subscribed
here when this thread began, so please forgive me if I am being
redundant of have neglected any questions.

What I'm trying to figure out at the moment, if you have any
suggestions, is the nicest URL scheme for the new pages that are going
to be implemented.

In LQT, there is a many-to-many relationship between articles and talk
pages (which we call 'channels'). When you click 'discuss' for an
article, you'll be taken to the article's primary, default channel,
but at the top of the page, there will be a list of other channels
that are attached to the article. So, the URL for a given talk page
must include both the article and the specific channel being viewed.
And I guess we'll have to hack in a Channels: namespace, since
channels are not ordinary pages, and since putting it in the Special:
namespace would be pretty ugly. Any ideas?

If you want to check out what I'm doing, I'm working in
/branches/liquidthreads. At present, though, I haven't committed
anything. I have a test wiki here at http://dmccabe.org:8000/wiki/.
Please don't hit it too hard.

Thanks!

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Re: New SVN committer

David McCabe
Update: We're leaving the possibility of many-to-many between articles
and channels open, but for now we're not implementing it.

We need URLs for each comment's permalink, for each article's current
talk page, and for monthly-or-so browsable archives for each talk
page.

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Re: New SVN committer

Arne 'Timwi' Heizmann
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Hi!

> In LQT, there is a many-to-many relationship between articles and talk
> pages (which we call 'channels'). When you click 'discuss' for an
> article, you'll be taken to the article's primary, default channel,
> but at the top of the page, there will be a list of other channels
> that are attached to the article.

Can I file a slight objection to this? :-) This idea would entirely get
rid of wiki talk pages. Personally, I think they should be kept, and
they should be used to give summaries of a discussion, overviews of the
different viewpoints in an issue, etc. They should be a collaborative
effort like any other wiki page. :)

You can easily arrange a many-to-many relationship by letting people add
something like "[[Channel:Blah]]" on a talk page. The talk page would
then list these channels at the top or something, but it would still be
a wiki talk page. If you want, talk pages could have an inherent "main
channel" that you can't remove because there's no [[Channel:]] tag for it.

Obviously, this is just a suggestion, and if sufficiently many people
think traditional talk pages are not necessary when we have
LiquidThreads, then feel free to ignore me.

> So, the URL for a given talk page must include both the article and
> the specific channel being viewed.

Instead, you could have a URL for just a channel. This channel page
could display the articles (talk pages) that link to it. Though I
understand the convenience some people see in the tabs at the top. Needs
some more thought :)

> And I guess we'll have to hack in a Channels: namespace, since
> channels are not ordinary pages, and since putting it in the Special:
> namespace would be pretty ugly. Any ideas?

It doesn't have to be a hack, unless you already consider the Special:
namespace a hack... But please call it Channel:, not Channels:! :-)

You might also want to think about whether a single Channel namespace is
enough, or whether you want "Wikipedia channel:" and others too.

Timwi

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Re: New SVN committer

David McCabe
> Can I file a slight objection to this? :-)

Sure, but we already scrapped it.

> It doesn't have to be a hack, unless you already consider the Special:
> namespace a hack...

Exactly! :)

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