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Re: Visibility of tools

Tim Landscheidt
Silke Meyer <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I was thinking about the list of tools a bit more... In my opinion, this
> collection of tools should be more visible to the world! There is so
> much work and knowledge in there and partially you really have to dig to
> find them...
> There is this plan to create/improve Labs/Tool Labs so that tools can be
> shared with others more easily. So one very important thing is to *know*
> about existing tools.

> How about dragging these tools into the spotlight? (The ones on the
> toolserver as well as the ones already living in Labs.) The other day I
> heard the proposal from a community member to have featured tools in a
> visible place, e.g. a "tool of the month" or even of the week. I like
> the idea! It could shortly present a tool, what it does, where to find
> it and the person(s) behind.

> What do you think of it? The first place that came to my mind where The
> Signpost and/or German language Kurier where we could suggest this
> topic. I'll be afk for the next few days and I'd be glad to read some
> opinions when back. :)

I've suggested a while back
(https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1271) to import the
old Toolserver blog/comments to blog.wikimedia.de and then
post status and ongoing project reports there.  It has a
different audience, probably more (potential) donors :-),
but showing them what "some server in Amsterdam" is used for
isn't a bad idea IMHO.

amaranth needs to be fixed before that, though :-).

Tim


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Re: Visibility of tools

Morten Wang
The Signpost ran a tool-related note in their tech report back in mid-December (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-12-17/Technology_report), suggesting that there's some precedent.  If a group of people who run interesting tools get together and show interest, it should be possible to get more visibility?


Regards,
Morten


On 20 February 2013 11:25, Tim Landscheidt <[hidden email]> wrote:
Silke Meyer <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I was thinking about the list of tools a bit more... In my opinion, this
> collection of tools should be more visible to the world! There is so
> much work and knowledge in there and partially you really have to dig to
> find them...
> There is this plan to create/improve Labs/Tool Labs so that tools can be
> shared with others more easily. So one very important thing is to *know*
> about existing tools.

> How about dragging these tools into the spotlight? (The ones on the
> toolserver as well as the ones already living in Labs.) The other day I
> heard the proposal from a community member to have featured tools in a
> visible place, e.g. a "tool of the month" or even of the week. I like
> the idea! It could shortly present a tool, what it does, where to find
> it and the person(s) behind.

> What do you think of it? The first place that came to my mind where The
> Signpost and/or German language Kurier where we could suggest this
> topic. I'll be afk for the next few days and I'd be glad to read some
> opinions when back. :)

I've suggested a while back
(https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1271) to import the
old Toolserver blog/comments to blog.wikimedia.de and then
post status and ongoing project reports there.  It has a
different audience, probably more (potential) donors :-),
but showing them what "some server in Amsterdam" is used for
isn't a bad idea IMHO.

amaranth needs to be fixed before that, though :-).

Tim


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Re: Visibility of tools

Mashiah Davidson
I'd like to suggest connectivity project ran with use of golem tool to be of higher visibility. The tool is hungry to database server power and is currently limited in function for laregest wikis. 

The idea is that isolated articles or isolate clusters of connected articles are not being read much, their page rank does not allow them appear high in goolgle results, and it is difficult to cross-verify those articles with others because of no hyperlink connection or low amount of. Authors of isolated articles are not always aware of the fact their article is isolated.

The tool analyses the graph of links between wikipedia articles, identifies isolated clusters of different types and then mark wikipedia articles with visible or invisible templates making authors aware through their watchlist of the fact that articles they created are isolated. Few years of use with russian wikipedia show that the amount of isolated articles gets reduced if the bot marks daily of more often, is stable when bot comes once per 1 - 3 days, and grows with wikipedia size when there is no bot running.

What is an article, and which links are to be counted - this is all customizable.

There is definitely a group of people from different countries who could vote for this proposal. I just doubt it is right to seek for required votes in toolserver maillist only, many participants are members of language specific connectivity projects.

However, let me try collecting votes here, all depends on who is currently active in the maillist reading.

The gate to the tool is here:

mashiah


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Morten Wang <[hidden email]> wrote:
The Signpost ran a tool-related note in their tech report back in mid-December (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-12-17/Technology_report), suggesting that there's some precedent.  If a group of people who run interesting tools get together and show interest, it should be possible to get more visibility?


Regards,
Morten


On 20 February 2013 11:25, Tim Landscheidt <[hidden email]> wrote:
Silke Meyer <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I was thinking about the list of tools a bit more... In my opinion, this
> collection of tools should be more visible to the world! There is so
> much work and knowledge in there and partially you really have to dig to
> find them...
> There is this plan to create/improve Labs/Tool Labs so that tools can be
> shared with others more easily. So one very important thing is to *know*
> about existing tools.

> How about dragging these tools into the spotlight? (The ones on the
> toolserver as well as the ones already living in Labs.) The other day I
> heard the proposal from a community member to have featured tools in a
> visible place, e.g. a "tool of the month" or even of the week. I like
> the idea! It could shortly present a tool, what it does, where to find
> it and the person(s) behind.

> What do you think of it? The first place that came to my mind where The
> Signpost and/or German language Kurier where we could suggest this
> topic. I'll be afk for the next few days and I'd be glad to read some
> opinions when back. :)

I've suggested a while back
(https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1271) to import the
old Toolserver blog/comments to blog.wikimedia.de and then
post status and ongoing project reports there.  It has a
different audience, probably more (potential) donors :-),
but showing them what "some server in Amsterdam" is used for
isn't a bad idea IMHO.

amaranth needs to be fixed before that, though :-).

Tim


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Re: Visibility of tools

Анастасия Львова
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Mashiah Davidson
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> I'd like to suggest connectivity project ran with use of golem tool to be of
> higher visibility. The tool is hungry to database server power and is
> currently limited in function for laregest wikis.
>
 > There is definitely a group of people from different countries who could
> vote for this proposal. I just doubt it is right to seek for required votes
> in toolserver maillist only, many participants are members of language
> specific connectivity projects.
Just let us know more clearly how to vote :)

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regards,
Lvova Anastasia

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