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Emna Mizouni
Dear Pierre-Yves and all,

I hope you all are doing great !

I know that the Saudi government invests in covering the Hajj with
professional photographers (around 30). It would be great if we could ask
them to donate those pictures. We could start this conversation through the
Saudi contributors, or if you want I could ping someone who could help to
initiate this conversation with their Royal Court - Diwan. Or may be
through Misk Foundation ?

This would let us optimise work and spend the potential budget in a more
relevant work/initiative.

Best regards
Emna

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> From: Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <[hidden email]>
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> Hi,
>
> First of all, my apology for my email in english.
>
> It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
> 2018 (or 2019).
>
> There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but almost
> nothing of quality.
>
> I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget, find
> some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be
> happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
> accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot of
> articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on
> the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
>
> Pyb
> Wikimedia France
>
> [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 16:57:21 +0100
> From: Mounir Touzri <[hidden email]>
> To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion
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> Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca
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>
> hi
> it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users, and
> I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to
> take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
>
> 2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
> [hidden email]>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > First of all, my apology for my email in english.
> >
> > It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
> > 2018 (or 2019).
> >
> > There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
> almost
> > nothing of quality.
> >
> > I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
> find
> > some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be
> > happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
> > accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
> of
> > articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on
> > the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
> >
> > Pyb
> > Wikimedia France
> >
> > [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
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> Amicalement
> Mounir Touzri
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>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 22:44:25 +0000
> From: Abbad Diraneyya <[hidden email]>
> To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion
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> Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca
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>
> Hi,
>
>
> I get to visit Mecca a few times each year and I might be there at the
> time of Al-Hajj. However, it's not that simple to hand someone a camera and
> ask him to go to Hajj; it's a trip so rough that you only do it once or
> twice in a lifetime.
>
>
> Going to Hajj implies going through a very rough time. It means spending
> half a day only to get there, sleeping in the street at night, walking at
> least a dozen kilometers per day, in addition to countless other hardships
> and even safety risks that you will have to endure for nearly five
> consecutive days. If there is a budget for such a project, you'll have to
> at least include a reasonable fee for the photographer himself, as well as
> to consider the legal possibility or permission of taking photos there.
>
>
> I do not mean to be negative, but this and more should be taken into
> account if you're seriously willing to consider this project.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Abbad.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Wikiar-l <[hidden email]> on behalf of Mounir
> Touzri <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 6:57 PM
> To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca
>
> hi
> it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users, and
> I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to
> take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
>
> 2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
> [hidden email]>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > First of all, my apology for my email in english.
> >
> > It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
> > 2018 (or 2019).
> >
> > There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
> almost
> > nothing of quality.
> >
> > I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
> find
> > some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be
> > happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
> > accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
> of
> > articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on
> > the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
> >
> > Pyb
> > Wikimedia France
> >
> > [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
> Wikipedia to the Moon - Meta - Wikimedia<https://meta.
> wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon>
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> A group of science enthusiasts from Berlin, Germany, are planning to send
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Re: Wikiar-l Digest, Vol 109, Issue 1

Mohamed Ibrahim
I prefer this option.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 13:42, Emna Mizouni <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dear Pierre-Yves and all,
>
> I hope you all are doing great !
>
> I know that the Saudi government invests in covering the Hajj with
> professional photographers (around 30). It would be great if we could ask
> them to donate those pictures. We could start this conversation through the
> Saudi contributors, or if you want I could ping someone who could help to
> initiate this conversation with their Royal Court - Diwan. Or may be
> through Misk Foundation ?
>
> This would let us optimise work and spend the potential budget in a more
> relevant work/initiative.
>
> Best regards
> Emna
>
> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 1:00 PM, <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Send Wikiar-l mailing list submissions to
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Send a photographer to Mecca (Pierre-Yves Beaudouin)
> >    2. Re: Send a photographer to Mecca (Mounir Touzri)
> >    3. Re: Send a photographer to Mecca (Abbad Diraneyya)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 15:48:44 +0200
> > From: Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAN152fsgAdoT-bhRLKWqsJJsWHFxsRcvAqzCX4ssdDm
> > [hidden email]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > First of all, my apology for my email in english.
> >
> > It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
> > 2018 (or 2019).
> >
> > There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
> almost
> > nothing of quality.
> >
> > I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
> find
> > some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would be
> > happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
> > accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
> of
> > articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia on
> > the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
> >
> > Pyb
> > Wikimedia France
> >
> > [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
> > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 16:57:21 +0100
> > From: Mounir Touzri <[hidden email]>
> > To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion
> >         <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAGj2RqDR0dM69j7ebcVKKGBhZu+V21YAiRH_=AV0JqnyK_BWKw@mail.
> > gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > hi
> > it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users,
> and
> > I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to
> > take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
> >
> > 2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
> > [hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > First of all, my apology for my email in english.
> > >
> > > It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
> > > 2018 (or 2019).
> > >
> > > There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
> > almost
> > > nothing of quality.
> > >
> > > I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
> > find
> > > some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would
> be
> > > happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
> > > accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
> > of
> > > articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia
> on
> > > the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
> > >
> > > Pyb
> > > Wikimedia France
> > >
> > > [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
> > > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Wikiar-l mailing list
> > > https://ar.wikipedia.org
> > > [hidden email]
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiar-l
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Amicalement
> > Mounir Touzri
> > [hidden email]
> > +216 29 774 346
> > Member Wikimedia TN user group
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 22:44:25 +0000
> > From: Abbad Diraneyya <[hidden email]>
> > To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion
> >         <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca
> > Message-ID:
> >         <DB6PR06MB307801EFFBF35BDC8FB7A0D4B5930@DB6PR06MB3078.
> > eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6"
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > I get to visit Mecca a few times each year and I might be there at the
> > time of Al-Hajj. However, it's not that simple to hand someone a camera
> and
> > ask him to go to Hajj; it's a trip so rough that you only do it once or
> > twice in a lifetime.
> >
> >
> > Going to Hajj implies going through a very rough time. It means spending
> > half a day only to get there, sleeping in the street at night, walking at
> > least a dozen kilometers per day, in addition to countless other
> hardships
> > and even safety risks that you will have to endure for nearly five
> > consecutive days. If there is a budget for such a project, you'll have to
> > at least include a reasonable fee for the photographer himself, as well
> as
> > to consider the legal possibility or permission of taking photos there.
> >
> >
> > I do not mean to be negative, but this and more should be taken into
> > account if you're seriously willing to consider this project.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Abbad.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Wikiar-l <[hidden email]> on behalf of
> Mounir
> > Touzri <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 6:57 PM
> > To: Mailing list for Arabic Wikipedia Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [Wikiar-l] Send a photographer to Mecca
> >
> > hi
> > it is a good idea, in Saudi Arabia there are a lot of wikipedia users,
> and
> > I think they will be engaged in this project, but I think it not easy to
> > take photos during the Hajj with a professional camera
> >
> > 2017-09-02 14:48 GMT+01:00 Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
> > [hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > First of all, my apology for my email in english.
> > >
> > > It would be great to send an experienced photographer to cover the Hajj
> > > 2018 (or 2019).
> > >
> > > There is a lot of pictures of the Hajj on Wikimedia Commons [1] but
> > almost
> > > nothing of quality.
> > >
> > > I would be happy to work on this project. I can elaborate the budget,
> > find
> > > some funds for the project (I think that some European chapters would
> be
> > > happy to fund that), obtain a media accreditation, etc.. The number of
> > > accreditations is very limited and Saudi Arabia probably censored a lot
> > of
> > > articles of Wikipedia, but let's try! Some wikimedians send Wikipedia
> on
> > > the Moon [2], we could try to send someone to Mecca ;)
> > >
> > > Pyb
> > > Wikimedia France
> > >
> > > [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hajj_by_year
> > > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon
> > Wikipedia to the Moon - Meta - Wikimedia<https://meta.
> > wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_to_the_Moon>
> > meta.wikimedia.org
> > A group of science enthusiasts from Berlin, Germany, are planning to send
> > their own custom-built rover to the Moon. And they want to take Wikipedia
> > with them. In the ...
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > ويكيبيديا، الموسوعة الحرة<https://ar.wikipedia.org/>
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> > --
> > Amicalement
> > Mounir Touzri
> > [hidden email]
> > +216 29 774 346
> > Member Wikimedia TN user group
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikiar-l mailing list
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> > Tulunid_Emirate_868_-_905_%28AD%29-ar.PNG]<https://ar.wikipedia.org/>
> >
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