Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates regarding the Wikimedia Foundation Election Committee

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates regarding the Wikimedia Foundation Election Committee

Jonathan Cardy
Hi Rogol,

If you want to make an exception to pseudonymity and require real name disclosure for volunteers in such a post then a post on a talkpage or on this mailing list isn't enough to get a change. You or someone else would need to start a request for comment, presumably on meta, and you'd need enough to agree with you to get consensus.

It would be a big change from the principle of only requiring real names for paid staff, and for volunteers such as trustees who are in roles where it is legally required.

Regards

WSC

>
> Nataliia,
>
> Thanks for your prompt response.  You have made your decision, and if you
> have solicited applications for the Committee on the basis that the members
> may remain pseudonymous, then I would not expect you to resile from that.
> However for the next round perhaps you may wish to reconsider your policy
> in the light of two points.
>
> Firstly, I am not suggesting that members of the Committee be required to
> link their real names and Wikimedia handles.  I am suggesting that they be
> required to act under their real names.  This allows a transparent exercise
> of their powers to, for example, bar candidates from standing for
> nomination to the Board, and make it clear to the community in general and
> the potential candidates in particular, where they might have a conflict of
> interest.  If a potential member of the Election Committee canot take the
> risk of associating their name with the Foundation for fear of reprisals,
> then that is regrettable, but the same would be true if they wished to
> stand for the Board.  There must be a balance between transparency and
> getting the best candidates and in this case I suggest that you have struck
> the balance in the wrong place.
>
> Secondly, it has been claimed by Adrian that there is no need for this, as
> he has been involved in government elections and has never been required to
> disclose his name to the electors.  I do not know which government he is
> referring to, or how important a role he had in the election process, but
> in the stable mature democracy where I live, the members of the electoral
> commission are publicly named, the returning officers with responsibility
> for conducting the elections are named (and are usually elected officials),
> the count is conducted in a public forum, often televised, to which the
> candidates have right of access, and the returning officers announce the
> results in public, explicitly giving their names as part of the
> announcement.    I think that you can afford to be as transparent as that.
>
> "Rogol"
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 12:21 AM, Nataliia Tymkiv <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
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Rogol Domedonfors
Jonathan,

Thanks, but I think this is a Board issue, and that the Board Governance
Committee should be invited to consider it.  However, as I'm sure you are
well aware, real names are required in a wide variety of contexts.  It is
the extent to which they are made public that differs.

"Rogol"

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan Cardy <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Hi Rogol,
>
> If you want to make an exception to pseudonymity and require real name
> disclosure for volunteers in such a post then a post on a talkpage or on
> this mailing list isn't enough to get a change. You or someone else would
> need to start a request for comment, presumably on meta, and you'd need
> enough to agree with you to get consensus.
>
> It would be a big change from the principle of only requiring real names
> for paid staff, and for volunteers such as trustees who are in roles where
> it is legally required.
>
> Regards
>
> WSC
>
>
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