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>    1. logstash down on deployment-prep (Guillaume Lederrey)
>    2. Re: logstash down on deployment-prep (Guillaume Lederrey)
>    3. Re: Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product
>       Q&A Session #2 (Srishti Sethi)
>    4. RFC discussion on Wednesday: Compacting the Revision      table
>       (Daniel Kinzler)
>    5. Re: Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product
>       Q&A Session #2 (Srishti Sethi)
>    6. Global language preference (Petr Bena)
>    7. Re: Global language preference (Martin Urbanec)
>    8. Re: Global language preference (Amir E. Aharoni)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 16:49:12 +0200
> From: Guillaume Lederrey <[hidden email]>
> To: Wikimedia developers <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] logstash down on deployment-prep
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> Hello all!
>
> While aligning elasticsearch / logstash / kibana versions on
> deployment-logstash2, I am running into some issues. Logstash does not
> want to restart...
>
> This is tracked on phabricator [1], I'll let you know as soon as I
> know what is going on...
>
> [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163709
>
> Have fun!
>
>   Guillaume
>
> --
> Guillaume Lederrey
> Operations Engineer, Discovery
> Wikimedia Foundation
> UTC+2 / CEST
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>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 17:26:58 +0200
> From: Guillaume Lederrey <[hidden email]>
> To: Wikimedia developers <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] logstash down on deployment-prep
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> logstash is up and running again on deployment-prep. For those who are
> interested, the logstash plugins that we used were deployed correctly,
> present on disk, but not reloaded by logstash. The reloading part is
> triggered by puppet [1], but that code does not seem to be robust
> enough.
>
> Logstash was down and logs were not collected between ~12:40 and 15:15 UTC.
>
> All my apologises for this inconvenience....
>
> [1] https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/production/
> modules/logstash/manifests/init.pp#L35-L42
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Guillaume Lederrey
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hello all!
> >
> > While aligning elasticsearch / logstash / kibana versions on
> > deployment-logstash2, I am running into some issues. Logstash does not
> > want to restart...
> >
> > This is tracked on phabricator [1], I'll let you know as soon as I
> > know what is going on...
> >
> > [1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163709
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> >   Guillaume
> >
> > --
> > Guillaume Lederrey
> > Operations Engineer, Discovery
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> > UTC+2 / CEST
>
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Lederrey
> Operations Engineer, Discovery
> Wikimedia Foundation
> UTC+2 / CEST
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 09:05:10 -0700
> From: Srishti Sethi <[hidden email]>
> To: Wikimedia developers <[hidden email]>,  Wikimedia
>         Mailing List <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Megan Neisler <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology
>         and Product Q&A Session #2
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> REMINDER: This talk starts in 1 hour.
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Srishti Sethi <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Please join us for the Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A
> > Session #2 by Victoria Coleman (CTO) and Toby Negrin (Interim VP of
> > Product) on May 9, 2017, at 17:00 UTC via YouTube live.
> >
> > Link to live YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kfgU9SZcg
> >
> > IRC channel for questions/discussion: #wikimedia-office
> >
> > More details:
> >
> > This talk is a follow-up of the Wikimedia Developer Summit session
> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0JdtauJkKs> and will address the next
> > set of questions gathered via a voting survey for the summit:
> >
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    For WMF dev teams, what is the right balance between pushing own work
> >    versus seeking and supporting volunteer contributors?
> >
> >
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    Do we have a plan to bring our developer documentation to the level of
> >    a top Internet website, a major free software project?
> >
> >
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    How can volunteers bring ideas and influence the WMF annual plans and
> >    quarterly goals? (Currently, when plans are published it's too late)
> >
> >
> >
> >    -
> >
> >    What vision do you see for MediaWiki and volunteer developers five
> >    years from now?
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your presence!
> >
> > Best,
> > Srishti
> >
> > --
> > Srishti Sethi
> > Developer Advocate
> > Technical Collaboration team
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Srishti Sethi
> Developer Advocate
> Technical Collaboration team
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 19:37:07 +0200
> From: Daniel Kinzler <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email], Brion Vibber
>         <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] RFC discussion on Wednesday: Compacting the
>         Revision        table
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> This is a reminder of Wednesday's RFC discussion about Compacting the
> Revision
> Table[1]. This RFC also touches upon aspects of Multi-Content Revisions[2]
> and
> is related to the need for storing longer revision comments[3], which we
> discussed last week.
>
> There is a big schema change up for review, to showcase what exactly is
> planned [4].
>
> The discussion will take place on the #wikimedia-office channel on
> Freenode, on
> Wednesday May 10, at 21:00 UTC (2pm PDT, 23:00 CEST). Depending on the
> outcome
> of this discussion, another meeting about this topic may be scheduled for a
> later date, at a different time, to accommodate people in other time zones.
>
> [1] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161671>
> [2] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107595>
> [3] <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153333>
> [4] <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/350097/>
>
> --
> Daniel Kinzler
> Principal Platform Engineer
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland
> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 11:52:39 -0700
> From: Srishti Sethi <[hidden email]>
> To: Wikimedia developers <[hidden email]>,  Wikimedia
>         Mailing List <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology
>         and Product Q&A Session #2
> Message-ID:
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> Thanks everyone for coming! Here is the link to the YouTube video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4kfgU9SZcg
>
> Enjoy!
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Srishti Sethi <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > REMINDER: This talk starts in 1 hour.
> >
> > On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Srishti Sethi <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> Please join us for the Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A
> >> Session #2 by Victoria Coleman (CTO) and Toby Negrin (Interim VP of
> >> Product) on May 9, 2017, at 17:00 UTC via YouTube live.
> >>
> >> Link to live YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
> v=Q4kfgU9SZcg
> >>
> >> IRC channel for questions/discussion: #wikimedia-office
> >>
> >> More details:
> >>
> >> This talk is a follow-up of the Wikimedia Developer Summit session
> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0JdtauJkKs> and will address the next
> >> set of questions gathered via a voting survey for the summit:
> >>
> >>
> >>    -
> >>
> >>    For WMF dev teams, what is the right balance between pushing own work
> >>    versus seeking and supporting volunteer contributors?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    -
> >>
> >>    Do we have a plan to bring our developer documentation to the level
> >>    of a top Internet website, a major free software project?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    -
> >>
> >>    How can volunteers bring ideas and influence the WMF annual plans and
> >>    quarterly goals? (Currently, when plans are published it's too late)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    -
> >>
> >>    What vision do you see for MediaWiki and volunteer developers five
> >>    years from now?
> >>
> >>
> >> Looking forward to your presence!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Srishti
> >>
> >> --
> >> Srishti Sethi
> >> Developer Advocate
> >> Technical Collaboration team
> >> Wikimedia Foundation
> >>
> >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Srishti Sethi
> > Developer Advocate
> > Technical Collaboration team
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Srishti Sethi
> Developer Advocate
> Technical Collaboration team
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:SSethi_(WMF)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 09:19:35 +0200
> From: Petr Bena <[hidden email]>
> To: Wikimedia developers <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference
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> Hi all,
>
> We have central auth, global user pages and stuff like that, do we
> have some kind of global preferences too? So that one could set
> interface language to English and have it like that on every single
> project they work on?
>
> I don't really see a need to have different projects with different
> interface language but if there was a need for this we could probably
> make it possible to override (like add language "Same as meta" which
> would be default option, or something of that kind).
>
> Maybe something that makes this possible already exists but I am not
> aware of that.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 07:26:02 +0000
> From: Martin Urbanec <[hidden email]>
> To: Wikimedia developers <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference
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>
> Hi Petr,
>
> an user can archieve that aim using global script and then viewing all
> projects they want to change. AFAIK this was requested in the community
> wishlist.
>
> Martin
>
> st 10. 5. 2017 v 9:20 odesílatel Petr Bena <[hidden email]> napsal:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We have central auth, global user pages and stuff like that, do we
> > have some kind of global preferences too? So that one could set
> > interface language to English and have it like that on every single
> > project they work on?
> >
> > I don't really see a need to have different projects with different
> > interface language but if there was a need for this we could probably
> > make it possible to override (like add language "Same as meta" which
> > would be default option, or something of that kind).
> >
> > Maybe something that makes this possible already exists but I am not
> > aware of that.
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 10:36:03 +0300
> From: "Amir E. Aharoni" <[hidden email]>
> To: Wikimedia developers <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Global language preference
> Message-ID:
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>
> There's an RFC about that:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/
> Global_user_preferences
>
> A lot of things that should be global aren't global.
>
> Global user accounts are really global user names, passwords, and email
> addresses, and not much else. User ids are not quite global—there is a
> central id, but also a local id, and my impression is that the local id is
> used more often. E.g., for analyzing contribution listing and statistics,
> the local id is needed.
>
> Other things I can immediately think of that should be global and aren't:
> Contribution listings, cookies, watchlists. And if we move away from user
> accounts and identities, then also gadgets and templates (and of course
> modules). (If I could have only one of all of those things, I'd vote for
> global templates without any hesitation.)
>
> Global notifications (a.k.a. Echo) are available, which is nice. Global
> user pages and common.js and common.css are possible, which is also nice.
> Some people use global js to auto-set preferences in all wikis upon opening
> them, which is a rather awful hack, but it does show that global
> preferences are in demand.
>
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
> 2017-05-10 10:19 GMT+03:00 Petr Bena <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We have central auth, global user pages and stuff like that, do we
> > have some kind of global preferences too? So that one could set
> > interface language to English and have it like that on every single
> > project they work on?
> >
> > I don't really see a need to have different projects with different
> > interface language but if there was a need for this we could probably
> > make it possible to override (like add language "Same as meta" which
> > would be default option, or something of that kind).
> >
> > Maybe something that makes this possible already exists but I am not
> > aware of that.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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