1): We have a problem with lack of ops right now. This is known and
being worked on. I know Freenode discourages leaving auto-op on, but
given the amount of vandalism that #wikipedia gets compared to other
channels, (for instance, on my other network, the 4 or 5 50-60 person
channels I co-own get spammed maybe once or twice every month), why
don't we just leave auto-ops on? It will prevent questions of "Where
are the ops", discourage spamming, and give the channel users a
little more peace of mind that ops are actually there. I've never
agreed with the "no auto-ops"philosophy: I know it's supposed to
prevent it from becoming a status symbol, but people were still
saying "give me ops!" before the rules change anyway, and personally
I think people consider on-project admin status a bigger "status
symbol". Summary: Why don't we just turn auto-op on?
2): There's obviously a LOT of criticism for these changes. Yes they
were posted in topic. It's noted that for a lot of people, they don't
check the topic. Or in my case, their client doesn't display the
topic or chanserv messages. Since there are a lot of people
dissatisfied with the change, have you considered backpedalling (even
more than the relaxation of the off topic rules)? Or if you're not
considering a complete reversal, some greater steps?
Possibly.....turning auto-op on ;) ?
> So, the idea of removing ops was primarily to create the opportunity
> for ratification of the guidelines. It was realised that the last
> attempt at guidelines had failed because those who were to enforce
> them were confused: if we had created a peaceful channel with them and
> then an inactive op came back and shattered things (in good faith and
> unintentionally) it would have been all for naught. By asking ops to
> reapply we can reaffirm we're all on the same wavelength.