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Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Fred Bauder-2
From RT:

http://rt.com/Top_News/2010-10-18/russian-police-probe-wikipedia.html

Fred


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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Federico Leva (Nemo)
Fred Bauder, 18/10/2010 21:10:
>>From RT:
>
> http://rt.com/Top_News/2010-10-18/russian-police-probe-wikipedia.html

«the Russian nonprofit organization Wikipedia.ru»: uh?
Yet another domain name to recover...

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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Milos Rancic-2
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 21:38, Federico Leva (Nemo) <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Fred Bauder, 18/10/2010 21:10:
>>>From RT:
>>
>> http://rt.com/Top_News/2010-10-18/russian-police-probe-wikipedia.html
>
> «the Russian nonprofit organization Wikipedia.ru»: uh?
> Yet another domain name to recover...
>
> Nemo
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AFAIK, president of Wikimedia Russia is Vladimir Medeyko, not
Stanislav Kozlovskiy. And "wikipedia.ru" seems to be squatted.

I have to admit that cyber-squatters have become more inventive. They
are making NPOs for squatting domains of other NPOs.

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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

David Gerard-2
In reply to this post by Federico Leva (Nemo)
On 18 October 2010 20:38, Federico Leva (Nemo) <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Fred Bauder, 18/10/2010 21:10:

>>>From RT:
>> http://rt.com/Top_News/2010-10-18/russian-police-probe-wikipedia.html

> «the Russian nonprofit organization Wikipedia.ru»: uh?
> Yet another domain name to recover...


Presumably they meant http://wikimedia.ru/ , which is of course the
WM-RU chapter :-)


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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Federico Leva (Nemo)
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Milos Rancic, 18/10/2010 21:59:
> I have to admit that cyber-squatters have become more inventive. They
> are making NPOs for squatting domains of other NPOs.

wikipedia.it squatter has incorporated "Wikipedia Italy Association" in
2004 (before the first chapter)...

Nemo

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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Yaroslav M. Blanter
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> AFAIK, president of Wikimedia Russia is Vladimir Medeyko, not
> Stanislav Kozlovskiy. And "wikipedia.ru" seems to be squatted.
>
> I have to admit that cyber-squatters have become more inventive. They
> are making NPOs for squatting domains of other NPOs.
>


Stanislav Kozlovskiy is a vice-president of Wikimedia Russia.

It is still not clear whether this is hoax or somebody really filed a
lawsuit.

Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Виктория-6
Stanislav Kozlovskiy is a vice-president of Wikimedia Russia.
>
> It is still not clear whether this is hoax or somebody really filed a
> lawsuit.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
>
As I understand it he didn't file the lawsuit, he just complained to the
police. The police was obliged to tick the box contacting somebody but they
don't take it too seriously. The files in question - а  translation of
Mussolini book  and a leaglet about Beslan were already removed from the
Russian Wikisource. As for The Ultimatum to remove all fascist simbols form
all articles I don't think he can or will do anything about it.

Victoria
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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

John Mark Vandenberg
2010/10/19 Виктория <[hidden email]>:

> Stanislav Kozlovskiy is a vice-president of Wikimedia Russia.
>>
>> It is still not clear whether this is hoax or somebody really filed a
>> lawsuit.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Yaroslav
>>
>>
> As I understand it he didn't file the lawsuit, he just complained to the
> police. The police was obliged to tick the box contacting somebody but they
> don't take it too seriously. The files in question - а  translation of
> Mussolini book  and a leaglet about Beslan were already removed from the
> Russian Wikisource.

They are not deleted yet.

Doctrine of Fascism

http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%84%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%B0

letter to US President about Beslan terrorist attack

http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BC,_%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE_%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%83%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D1%83%D0%B5%D1%82_%D0%B6%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B0!

And there is still a lot of discussion on the Russian Wikisource village pump.

http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Викитека:Форум

They have created a template to put on works that are on the Russian
Federal List of Extremist Materials.

http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2

The list of forbidden works is also available on Russian Wikisource.

http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2

(We should translate that list onto English Wikisource..)

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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Federico Leva (Nemo)
John Vandenberg, 19/10/2010 12:43:
For those who have forgotten it, we had a similar issue with
http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Les_Protocoles_des_Sages_de_Sion (I've
never understood how it's concluded: it's so complicated!).

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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Fred Bauder-2
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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2
>

Invokes Google translate.

Quite remarkable; it is a list of Russian court decision putting them on
the Federal List of Extremist Materials:

16. The newspaper "I am Russian. Lower Volga region" &#8470; 1 and
&#8470; 2, 2005 (decision Znamensky City Court of Astrakhan region of
03.07.2007).

17. Brochure "Cerberus freedom» &#8470; 11, 2005. (Municipal court
decision to the Sign of the Astrakhan region of 03.07.2007).

Fred



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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Nikola Smolenski-2
On 10/19/2010 02:24 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:

> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2
>>
>
> Invokes Google translate.
>
> Quite remarkable; it is a list of Russian court decision putting them on
> the Federal List of Extremist Materials:
>
> 16. The newspaper "I am Russian. Lower Volga region"&#8470; 1 and
> &#8470; 2, 2005 (decision Znamensky City Court of Astrakhan region of
> 03.07.2007).
>
> 17. Brochure "Cerberus freedom»&#8470; 11, 2005. (Municipal court
> decision to the Sign of the Astrakhan region of 03.07.2007).

It gets much more interesting:

510. Book "What is the Bible actually teaching us?" published by Watch
tower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. Brooklyn, New York,
U.S.A. 2005

552. Quotes by user "АК-47": since the beginning of the sentence
"Never..." to the semicolon; since the beginning of the sentence "Ize
sukermaeru" [?] to the last word; [...] on the website www.gorodsalavat.ru

640. L. Ron Hubbard "Dianetics 55!" (only a single copy?)

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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

John Mark Vandenberg
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A longer piece about this:

http://www.mn.ru/society/20101019/188137566.html

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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Fred Bauder-2
> A longer piece about this:
>
> http://www.mn.ru/society/20101019/188137566.html
>
> --
> John Vandenberg

And it contains the conflation of Wikipedia with WikiLeaks, to boot.

Fred



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Re: Russian police probe Wikipedia for extremism

Yann Forget-3
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Hello,

2010/10/19 Federico Leva (Nemo) <[hidden email]>:
>
> For those who have forgotten it, we had a similar issue with
> http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Les_Protocoles_des_Sages_de_Sion (I've
> never understood how it's concluded: it's so complicated!).
>
> Nemo

There was never any formal request for deletion by any French authority,
so we still have it.

Regards,

Yann

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