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Sunsetting Wikimetrics

Marcel Ruiz Forns
Hi!

Wikimetrics <https://metrics.wmflabs.org/> development has been frozen
since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its
last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.

If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics
<https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/>, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics,
allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running
for one year now, has great documentation
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics>, and is supported by
the Community
Tech <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech> team.

For more information, you can read this Phabricator task
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.
Please, post any questions or comments in there.

Thanks!

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Re: [Wikimetrics] Sunsetting Wikimetrics

Federico Leva (Nemo)
Marcel Ruiz Forns, 22/02/19 21:01:
> Wikimetrics <https://metrics.wmflabs.org/> development has been frozen
> since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool.

This is sad, for sure. As someone who managed to patch and run the
original WikiStats scripts despite a limited knowledge of Perl, I think
it would have been more reasonable than often assumed to continue their
maintenance. However it's clear that we're well past the time when such
a decision might have been possible, and it's good to see a growing
interest in feature parity for the new WikiStats.

I think the purposes of this list can be served by the analytics list
without too much sweat.

Federico

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Re: [Wikimetrics] Sunsetting Wikimetrics

Dan Andreescu
Federico, we're talking about *Wikimetrics*, which is a very different
project intended to run stats on groups of users (cohorts) for a specific
set of standard metrics.  This tool was mostly developed for and used by
grantmaking and program teams at WMF and affiliates around the world, but
its use is too low to justify the effort it would take to maintain it.
Better tools are taking its place, and we're working on some of the
infrastructure will support those better tools.

I think you may have been talking about *Wikistats*, which I agree would've
been very nice to keep maintaining.  I think ultimately we don't have too
many of the skills that made Erik successful at what he did.  Perl was just
one of them, and not a major part in my opinion.
If I'm wrong and you're indeed talking about Wikimetrics, do please
elaborate as we're just starting to make this decision.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 5:21 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Marcel Ruiz Forns, 22/02/19 21:01:
> > Wikimetrics <https://metrics.wmflabs.org/> development has been frozen
> > since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool.
>
> This is sad, for sure. As someone who managed to patch and run the
> original WikiStats scripts despite a limited knowledge of Perl, I think
> it would have been more reasonable than often assumed to continue their
> maintenance. However it's clear that we're well past the time when such
> a decision might have been possible, and it's good to see a growing
> interest in feature parity for the new WikiStats.
>
> I think the purposes of this list can be served by the analytics list
> without too much sweat.
>
> Federico
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Sunsetting Wikimetrics

Marcel Ruiz Forns
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This is done now.
http://metrics.wmflabs.org points now to the Event Metrics tool.

In short we will close this mailing list.
For more information or questions, please use this Phabricator task
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.

Cheers!

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Wikimetrics <https://metrics.wmflabs.org/> development has been frozen
> since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its
> last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
>
> If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics
> <https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/>, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics,
> allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running
> for one year now, has great documentation
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics>, and is supported by the Community
> Tech <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech> team.
>
> For more information, you can read this Phabricator task
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.
> Please, post any questions or comments in there.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)*
> Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation
>


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Re: Sunsetting Wikimetrics

Joe Matazzoni
Wikimetrics users considering Event Metrics as a replacement will want to know that we are on the verge of releasing some very significant new features to Event Metrics. These changes should be coming within the next few weeks. You can read about the new capabilities under construction on the project page [1].

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Event_Metrics#Status_and_schedule <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Event_Metrics#Status_and_schedule>

Yours,
Joe Matazzoni
Product Manager, Collaboration Team
Wikimedia Foundation, San Francisco



> On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Marcel Ruiz Forns <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> This is done now.
> http://metrics.wmflabs.org <http://metrics.wmflabs.org/> points now to the Event Metrics tool.
>
> In short we will close this mailing list.
> For more information or questions, please use this Phabricator task
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>>.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Wikimetrics <https://metrics.wmflabs.org/> development has been frozen
>> since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its
>> last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
>>
>> If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics
>> <https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/>, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics,
>> allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running
>> for one year now, has great documentation
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics>, and is supported by the Community
>> Tech <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech> team.
>>
>> For more information, you can read this Phabricator task
>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.
>> Please, post any questions or comments in there.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)*
>> Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation
>>
>
>
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Re: Sunsetting Wikimetrics

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Use of 'this' was confusing since I read it like 'what??????? Wikitech-l is closing?????' to me. (I'm only subscribed to wikitech-l)

So... since I don't think wikitech-l is closing anytime in the near future, the wikimetrics one is the one being closed, just in case anyone is confused like me xD.

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2019. 3. 27. 03:20, Marcel Ruiz Forns <[hidden email]> 작성:

> This is done now.
> http://metrics.wmflabs.org points now to the Event Metrics tool.
>
> In short we will close this mailing list.
> For more information or questions, please use this Phabricator task
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Wikimetrics <https://metrics.wmflabs.org/> development has been frozen
>> since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its
>> last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
>>
>> If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics
>> <https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/>, a newer tool that, like Wikimetrics,
>> allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been running
>> for one year now, has great documentation
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics>, and is supported by the Community
>> Tech <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech> team.
>>
>> For more information, you can read this Phabricator task
>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.
>> Please, post any questions or comments in there.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)*
>> Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation
>>
>
>
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Re: Sunsetting Wikimetrics

Marcel Ruiz Forns
Hi Yongmin,

indeed, only Wikimetrics list is going to be closed.
Wikitech-l remains the same.
Thank you for spotting this mistake, and sorry for the confusion!

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:10 PM Yongmin H. via Wikitech-l <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Use of 'this' was confusing since I read it like 'what??????? Wikitech-l
> is closing?????' to me. (I'm only subscribed to wikitech-l)
>
> So... since I don't think wikitech-l is closing anytime in the near
> future, the wikimetrics one is the one being closed, just in case anyone is
> confused like me xD.
>
> --
> Yongmin
> Sent from my iPhone
> https://reviwiki.info/
> Text licensed under CC BY ND 2.0 KR
> Please note that this address is list-only address and any non-mailing
> list mails will be treated as spam.
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>
> 2019. 3. 27. 03:20, Marcel Ruiz Forns <[hidden email]> 작성:
>
> > This is done now.
> > http://metrics.wmflabs.org points now to the Event Metrics tool.
> >
> > In short we will close this mailing list.
> > For more information or questions, please use this Phabricator task
> > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:01 PM Marcel Ruiz Forns <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> Wikimetrics <https://metrics.wmflabs.org/> development has been frozen
> >> since 2017, and we Analytics consider it's time to sunset this tool. Its
> >> last day of operation will be March 24th, 2019.
> >>
> >> If you're a Wikimetrics user, please consider working with Event Metrics
> >> <https://eventmetrics.wmflabs.org/>, a newer tool that, like
> Wikimetrics,
> >> allows to gather statistics on cohorts of wiki users. It has been
> running
> >> for one year now, has great documentation
> >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event_Metrics>, and is supported by
> the Community
> >> Tech <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech> team.
> >>
> >> For more information, you can read this Phabricator task
> >> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T211835>.
> >> Please, post any questions or comments in there.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> --
> >> *Marcel Ruiz Forns** (he/him)*
> >> Analytics Developer @ Wikimedia Foundation
> >>
> >
> >
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