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Re: Visa rejections

Risker
I'm sorry...but this one is a red flag. 

Canadian passports are only issued to Canadian citizens, and Canadian citizens do not require a visa to come to Canada, regardless of where in the world they are when they start their trip.  They must enter Canada using their Canadian passport for any related travel information (i.e., using the Canadian passport for airline information), at the time of boarding and at the time of arrival in Canada.  If ViswaPrabha is a dual citizen, then both passports should be carried at all times.  

If he applied for a visa, he received horrible advice.  If he is a Canadian citizen, he can probably still travel, and should contact the Ministry of Immigration and Citizenship directly.

Risker/Anne



On 30 July 2017 at 22:51, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:
On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania. 

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad. 

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:
We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email]> wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would not be able to make it, of course)



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Re: Visa rejections

Ranjith S
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Sorry my bad. He is holding a us visa. Not Canadian passport. 

But still got a rejection. 

On 31-Jul-2017 8:22 AM, "Josh Lim" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Ranjith,

Am I reading correctly that Viswa has a Canadian passport? If he has one, then he doesn’t need a visa to go to Montréal.

Best regards,

Josh

On Jul 31, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania. 

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad. 

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:
We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email]> wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would not be able to make it, of course)



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Re: Visa rejections

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Hi,

Let me correct, Viswa only has an Indian passport. I think Ranjith wanted to say that Viswa's visa got rejected even though he had a Valid US visa.

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On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email]
wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
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Hi Ranjith,

Am I reading correctly that Viswa has a Canadian passport? If he has one, then he doesn’t need a visa to go to Montréal.

Best regards,

Josh

On Jul 31, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email] <[hidden email]>> wrote:
We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email] <[hidden email]>> wrote:
Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the same on this thread.



I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would not be able to make it, of course)



Thanks and regards,

User:Rehman <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman>



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I'm sorry...but this one is a red flag.

Canadian passports are only issued to Canadian citizens, and Canadian
citizens do not require a visa to come to Canada, regardless of where in
the world they are when they start their trip.  They must enter Canada
using their Canadian passport for any related travel information (i.e.,
using the Canadian passport for airline information), at the time of
boarding and at the time of arrival in Canada.  If ViswaPrabha is a dual
citizen, then both passports should be carried at all times.

If he applied for a visa, he received horrible advice.  If he is a Canadian
citizen, he can probably still travel, and should contact the Ministry of
Immigration and Citizenship directly.

Risker/Anne



On 30 July 2017 at 22:51, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <
[hidden email]> wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
not be able to make it, of course)



Thanks and regards,

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Re: Visa rejections

ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)-2
Ha Ha!
Very tired and completely down with a viral fever + an unexpected denial of an almost definitive temporary visa + realization of loss of money.
To that miserable scenario, Ranjith's wrongly worded mail brought me some good laughter as I get to open the mailbox.
Thank you Ranjith. :-)

Now few facts among the many:
1. I have a long travel history since 1992 running through Europe, Americas and Middle East.
2. Well established reasons to show that I must / will get back to India after this short visit.
3. I hold a US B1/B2 visa valid as on date.
4. There is a 'clickable' and identifiable hotel booking and travel booking in my name.
5. The interface to the visa application web site / office is like a black hole. There is no way you can even ask why your application is not being responded even after 60 days. No telephone, no mail ID that can reply to. The whole system seems to be
a rude automation of some 19th century port pass system.

Canada, for a whole lifetime, I always adored you! But now I feel sorry for you!

-Viswaprabha

On 31 July 2017 at 10:39, Satdeep Gill <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Let me correct, Viswa only has an Indian passport. I think Ranjith wanted to say that Viswa's visa got rejected even though he had a Valid US visa.

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On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email]
wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
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Hi Ranjith,

Am I reading correctly that Viswa has a Canadian passport? If he has one, then he doesn’t need a visa to go to Montréal.

Best regards,

Josh

On Jul 31, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email] <[hidden email]>> wrote:
We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email] <[hidden email]>> wrote:
Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the same on this thread.



I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would not be able to make it, of course)



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I'm sorry...but this one is a red flag.

Canadian passports are only issued to Canadian citizens, and Canadian
citizens do not require a visa to come to Canada, regardless of where in
the world they are when they start their trip.  They must enter Canada
using their Canadian passport for any related travel information (i.e.,
using the Canadian passport for airline information), at the time of
boarding and at the time of arrival in Canada.  If ViswaPrabha is a dual
citizen, then both passports should be carried at all times.

If he applied for a visa, he received horrible advice.  If he is a Canadian
citizen, he can probably still travel, and should contact the Ministry of
Immigration and Citizenship directly.

Risker/Anne



On 30 July 2017 at 22:51, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <
[hidden email]> wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
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cs
Sound pretty much like it is for a Brit trying to get a visa for Australia these days through their visa agency in Bangkok - and we once used to own the place ;)
I’ve stopped visiting my relations there because of the hassle getting in.
I think it’s due to my passport showing stamps for every developing country in Asia, and living in Thailand.

Kudpung

On 31Jul, 2017, at 13:56, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ha Ha!
Very tired and completely down with a viral fever + an unexpected denial of an almost definitive temporary visa + realization of loss of money.
To that miserable scenario, Ranjith's wrongly worded mail brought me some good laughter as I get to open the mailbox.
Thank you Ranjith. :-)

Now few facts among the many:
1. I have a long travel history since 1992 running through Europe, Americas and Middle East.
2. Well established reasons to show that I must / will get back to India after this short visit.
3. I hold a US B1/B2 visa valid as on date.
4. There is a 'clickable' and identifiable hotel booking and travel booking in my name.
5. The interface to the visa application web site / office is like a black hole. There is no way you can even ask why your application is not being responded even after 60 days. No telephone, no mail ID that can reply to. The whole system seems to be
a rude automation of some 19th century port pass system.

Canada, for a whole lifetime, I always adored you! But now I feel sorry for you!

-Viswaprabha

On 31 July 2017 at 10:39, Satdeep Gill <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Let me correct, Viswa only has an Indian passport. I think Ranjith wanted to say that Viswa's visa got rejected even though he had a Valid US visa.

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On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

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We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
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Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
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A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
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Hi Ranjith,

Am I reading correctly that Viswa has a Canadian passport? If he has one, then he doesn’t need a visa to go to Montréal.

Best regards,

Josh

On Jul 31, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email] <[hidden email]>> wrote:
We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email] <[hidden email]>> wrote:
Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the same on this thread.



I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would not be able to make it, of course)



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I'm sorry...but this one is a red flag.

Canadian passports are only issued to Canadian citizens, and Canadian
citizens do not require a visa to come to Canada, regardless of where in
the world they are when they start their trip.  They must enter Canada
using their Canadian passport for any related travel information (i.e.,
using the Canadian passport for airline information), at the time of
boarding and at the time of arrival in Canada.  If ViswaPrabha is a dual
citizen, then both passports should be carried at all times.

If he applied for a visa, he received horrible advice.  If he is a Canadian
citizen, he can probably still travel, and should contact the Ministry of
Immigration and Citizenship directly.

Risker/Anne



On 30 July 2017 at 22:51, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




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[hidden email]> wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
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Re: Visa rejections

Jean-Philippe Béland
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"The whole system seems to be a rude automation of some 19th century port pass system."

- As a Canadian, I can tell you the federal government is still living in the 19th century, or early 20th century at best.

JP



On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 2:56 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ha Ha!
Very tired and completely down with a viral fever + an unexpected denial of an almost definitive temporary visa + realization of loss of money.
To that miserable scenario, Ranjith's wrongly worded mail brought me some good laughter as I get to open the mailbox.
Thank you Ranjith. :-)

Now few facts among the many:
1. I have a long travel history since 1992 running through Europe, Americas and Middle East.
2. Well established reasons to show that I must / will get back to India after this short visit.
3. I hold a US B1/B2 visa valid as on date.
4. There is a 'clickable' and identifiable hotel booking and travel booking in my name.
5. The interface to the visa application web site / office is like a black hole. There is no way you can even ask why your application is not being responded even after 60 days. No telephone, no mail ID that can reply to. The whole system seems to be
a rude automation of some 19th century port pass system.

Canada, for a whole lifetime, I always adored you! But now I feel sorry for you!

-Viswaprabha

On 31 July 2017 at 10:39, Satdeep Gill <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

Let me correct, Viswa only has an Indian passport. I think Ranjith wanted to say that Viswa's visa got rejected even though he had a Valid US visa.

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On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email]
wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
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Hi Ranjith,

Am I reading correctly that Viswa has a Canadian passport? If he has one, then he doesn’t need a visa to go to Montréal.

Best regards,

Josh

On Jul 31, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email] <[hidden email]>> wrote:
We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <[hidden email] <[hidden email]>> wrote:
Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the same on this thread.



I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would not be able to make it, of course)



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I'm sorry...but this one is a red flag.

Canadian passports are only issued to Canadian citizens, and Canadian
citizens do not require a visa to come to Canada, regardless of where in
the world they are when they start their trip.  They must enter Canada
using their Canadian passport for any related travel information (i.e.,
using the Canadian passport for airline information), at the time of
boarding and at the time of arrival in Canada.  If ViswaPrabha is a dual
citizen, then both passports should be carried at all times.

If he applied for a visa, he received horrible advice.  If he is a Canadian
citizen, he can probably still travel, and should contact the Ministry of
Immigration and Citizenship directly.

Risker/Anne



On 30 July 2017 at 22:51, Ranjith S <[hidden email]> wrote:

On a conversation with ViswaPrabha he confirmed that he got visa rejection
from Canadian embessy so can't participate in this wikimania.

He is holding a Canadian passport but got bad.

Very sad to hear this.

On 28-Jul-2017 3:50 AM, "Ellie Young" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We have  a waitlist from the original pool of people who made it into
Phase 2 consideration by the Scholarship committee.   Those people were
notified that they might be offered a scholarship as late as mid-July.  We
have filled the people who couldn't attend for whatever reason after they
accepted  the scholarship offer with names from there.

Ellie
WMF Event Manager




On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Rehman Abubakr <
[hidden email]> wrote:

Excuse me for the blunt question. But are there any shortlisted
candidates this time?


A fellow Wikimedian asked me this, and I though I might as well ask the
same on this thread.


I'm sure there would be a lot of genuinely interested Wikimedians who
would like to attend the conference, in lieu of the sheer number of
rejected applicants. (with respect to the successful applicants who would
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Re: Visa rejections

Béria Lima
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5. The interface to the visa application web site / office is like a black hole. There is no way you can even ask why your application is not being responded even after 60 days. No telephone, no mail ID that can reply to. The whole system seems to be
a rude automation of some 19th century port pass system.


As someone who had to deal with Canadian Immigration fo​r mo​re than 2 yeas, I can say they a​re not so bu​roc​ratic as Eu​rope and USA, but not even nea​rly as easy to deal as the B​razilian Immig​ration :).

Anyway, just to help you and eveyone else who wants to contact immig​ration, he​re is the page: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/contacts/call.asp

​And since this Wikimania is in Quebec, if fo​r some ​reason you need to talk with Immig​ration Quebec (not necessa​ry fo​r a tou​rist visa, but you neve​r know), he​re is thei​r contact page: http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/fr/coordonnees/telephone.html

_____
Béria L
​. de Rodríguez


Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.

On 31 July 2017 at 03:56, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Very tired and completely down with a vi
​​
ral fever + an unexpected denial of an almost definitive temporary visa + realization of loss of money.
To that miserable scenario, Ranjith's wrongly worded mail brought me some good laughter as I get to open the mailbox.
Thank you Ranjith. :-)

Now few facts among the many:
1. I have a long travel history since 1992 running through Europe, Americas and Middle East.
2. Well established reasons to show that I must / will get back to India after this short visit.
3. I hold a US B1/B2 visa valid as on date.
4. There is a 'clickable' and identifiable hotel booking and travel booking in my name.
​​
5. The interface to the visa application web site / office is like a black hole. There is no way you can even ask why your application is not being responded even after 60 days. No telephone, no mail ID that can reply to. The whole system seems to be
a rude automation of some 19th century port pass system.

Canada, for a whole lifetime, I always adored you! But now I feel sorry for you!

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