Funny, in a tragic way: http://www.thagodz.com/search/wiki/Wikipedia
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"Thagodz Wiki is a multilingual, Web-based, free-content encyclopedia
project. The name is a portmanteau of the words wiki and encyclopedia." Brilliant... just pure genius... putting "wiki" and "encyclopedia" together and getting "Thagodz Wiki" - just how do they do it? _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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> Funny, in a tragic way: http://www.thagodz.com/search/wiki/Wikipedia http://www.askfactmaster.com/Twiki (not remote loading) is still funnier. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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Stupid leechers. We should sue them for not complying with the GFDL.
Mgm On 1/27/07, Thomas Dalton <[hidden email]> wrote: > > "Thagodz Wiki is a multilingual, Web-based, free-content encyclopedia > project. The name is a portmanteau of the words wiki and > encyclopedia." > > Brilliant... just pure genius... putting "wiki" and "encyclopedia" > together and getting "Thagodz Wiki" - just how do they do it? > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [hidden email] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
On 27/01/07, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Stupid leechers. We should sue them for not complying with the GFDL. I suppose the Jason Scott solution is unlikely to pass Foundation muster. It'd work, though. - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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> Stupid leechers. We should sue them for not complying with the GFDL.
> > Mgm "Thagodz WikiR is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a US-registered 501(c)(3) tax-deductible nonprofit charity." They should really fix that. --Mets501 _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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On 1/28/07, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Stupid leechers. We should sue them for not complying with the GFDL. Easier just to block access from their IP. They can waste all the money they like setting up sites to leech with. -- Stephen Bain [hidden email] _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
And don't forget to check their "donations" link in the navigation box.
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Can we make them stop?
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On 1/27/07, Dan Collins <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Can we make them stop? If they follow the GFDL, then no. If they don't (which it appears that they don't, since they don't credit us; the history link doesn't work), we could sue, but really, do we even care that much? --Oskar _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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On 27/01/07, [hidden email]
<[hidden email]> > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:15:01 +0100 > From: "Oskar Sigvardsson" <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An obscene example of remote loading > If they follow the GFDL, then no. If they don't (which it appears that > they don't, since they don't credit us; the history link doesn't > work), we could sue, but really, do we even care that much? If it's remote loading, as in, pulling content from our servers live, then we *can* stop it, and such mirrors should be reported to us on IRC in #wikimedia-tech (on Freenode, as usual) or else reported to our mailing list at [hidden email]. Remote loading is not helpful for us; it creates a small amount of additional, illegitimate load on our cache servers and it facilitates loading the site into frames and so forth...this is not necessarily illegal, but quite often, remote loading sites won't really care about the GFDL and it becomes so. Legitimate mirrors and people who want to reuse our content are free, and encouraged, to download a database dump and process it for their needs. There is also an OAI live repository service, which I think we charge for (and I don't know how many parties actually use it). If the licence our content is released under is violated, then individual contributors to that content have a right to sue for copyright infringement; Wikimedia doesn't actually *have* the copyright and so may not be able to do the actual litigation (but I'm not a lawyer, hate lawyers, and am not completely sure of that). Rob Church _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
> If it's remote loading, as in, pulling content from our servers live, then
we *can* stop it, and such mirrors should be reported to us on IRC in #wikimedia-tech (on Freenode, as usual) or else reported to our mailing list at [hidden email]. > > Remote loading is not helpful for us; it creates a small amount of additional, illegitimate load on our cache servers and it facilitates loading the site into frames and so forth...this is not necessarily illegal, but quite often, remote loading sites won't really care about the GFDL and it becomes so. > > Legitimate mirrors and people who want to reuse our content are free, and encouraged, to download a database dump and process it for their needs. There is also an OAI live repository service, which I think we charge for (and I don't know how many parties actually use it). > > If the licence our content is released under is violated, then individual contributors to that content have a right to sue for copyright infringement; Wikimedia doesn't actually *have* the copyright and so may not be able to do the actual litigation (but I'm not a lawyer, hate lawyers, and am not completely sure of that). > > > Rob Church I emailed [hidden email] (which they say is their contact address) and asked how they get the content. --Mets501 _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
It is remote loading. Just check your userpage at Thagodz.com, then modify it in
Wikipedia, and do a full refresh at Thagodz.com again. At least when I tried (maybe 20 hours ago, at the same time I reported them at the tech IRC channel) they were doing so. RB _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
OK. Well, I emailed already asking them to switch to a database dump and
described how to download one; let's see what they have to say about it. --Mets501 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roberto Alfonso Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:20 PM To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An obscene example of remote loading It is remote loading. Just check your userpage at Thagodz.com, then modify it in Wikipedia, and do a full refresh at Thagodz.com again. At least when I tried (maybe 20 hours ago, at the same time I reported them at the tech IRC channel) they were doing so. RB _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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> Legitimate mirrors and people who want to reuse our content are free, > and encouraged, to download a database dump and process it for their > needs. Say, are there examples of people who do this well, contributing back to Wikipedia or to the general public? The examples I've seen are all a bit disappointing, but perhaps that's just because the outrageous ones generate more attention. Thanks, William _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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On 27/01/07, SPUI <[hidden email]> wrote:
> http://www.askfactmaster.com/Twiki (not remote loading) is still funnier. Or indeed: http://www.askfactmaster.com/Portland_Pattern_Repository "The name Ward's AskFactMaster.Com (or, in camel case, WardsAskFactMaster.Com) is also used" -- Earle Martin http://downlode.org/ http://purl.org/net/earlemartin/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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> > Legitimate mirrors and people who want to reuse our content are free,
> > and encouraged, to download a database dump and process it for their > > needs. > Say, are there examples of people who do this well, contributing back to > Wikipedia or to the general public? The examples I've seen are all a bit > disappointing, but perhaps that's just because the outrageous ones > generate more attention. Yes, several sites do this quite well. See for example http://www.answers.com. --Mets501 _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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On 28 Jan 2007 at 13:45, "Earle Martin" <[hidden email]>
wrote: > On 27/01/07, SPUI <[hidden email]> wrote: > > http://www.askfactmaster.com/Twiki (not remote loading) is still funnier. > > Or indeed: http://www.askfactmaster.com/Portland_Pattern_Repository > > "The name Ward's AskFactMaster.Com (or, in camel case, > WardsAskFactMaster.Com) is also used" Plus, it "is sometimes referred to simply as AskFactMaster.Com (with a capital 'W')", and "[o]ther names have been suggested to try to avoid ambiguity with the generic concept of a AskFactMaster.Com". I guess by their own admission, AskFactMaster.Com is generic and can't be trademarked. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
http://www.thagodz.com/search/wiki/?title=Wikipedia&x=25&y=17 no longer
works, looks like they were blocked or they are getting a dump. Speaking of dumps, the latest <http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20070124/> one seems to be taking forever. On 1/28/07, Daniel R. Tobias <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On 28 Jan 2007 at 13:45, "Earle Martin" <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > On 27/01/07, SPUI <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > http://www.askfactmaster.com/Twiki (not remote loading) is still > funnier. > > > > Or indeed: http://www.askfactmaster.com/Portland_Pattern_Repository > > > > "The name Ward's AskFactMaster.Com (or, in camel case, > > WardsAskFactMaster.Com) is also used" > > Plus, it "is sometimes referred to simply as AskFactMaster.Com (with > a capital 'W')", and "[o]ther names have been suggested to try to > avoid ambiguity with the generic concept of a AskFactMaster.Com". > > I guess by their own admission, AskFactMaster.Com is generic and > can't be trademarked. > > > -- > == Dan == > Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ > Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ > Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [hidden email] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > -- -Firefoxman _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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On 28/01/07, William Pietri <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Rob Church wrote: > > Legitimate mirrors and people who want to reuse our content are free, > > and encouraged, to download a database dump and process it for their > > needs. > > Say, are there examples of people who do this well, contributing back to > Wikipedia or to the general public? The examples I've seen are all a bit > disappointing, but perhaps that's just because the outrageous ones > generate more attention. answers.com is perhaps our most high-profile reuser, but we have an agreement with them for a live feed. I'm not offhand aware of a particularly shining example of a database-dump site, partly because we tend to outstrip them quite fast (and because enwiki dumps were iffy for quite a while, meaning most of them are long-stagnant) There are certainly some decent offline projects using dumps, though, in one form or another. -- - Andrew Gray [hidden email] _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [hidden email] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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