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Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Mateus Nobre
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Roan Kattouw-2
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments
> ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF
> contacted me six months before.
> In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
>
> In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3
> months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the
> people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we
> requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy.
> Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal,
> and would take more two months.
>
> It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
> happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
>
> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really
> isn't easy.
>
> What do you think?
>
To clarify: you're talking about selecting scholarship recipients, right?

Roan

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Mateus Nobre
Yeah, I'm.


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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:23:52 +0100

> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments
> > ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF
> > contacted me six months before.
> > In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
> >
> > In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3
> > months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the
> > people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we
> > requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy.
> > Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal,
> > and would take more two months.
> >
> > It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
> > happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
> >
> > I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> > Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really
> > isn't easy.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> To clarify: you're talking about selecting scholarship recipients, right?
>
> Roan
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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Béria Lima
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How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Mateus Nobre
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Béria Lima
[hidden email] is there for this.

We also have [hidden email] , [hidden email] and http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
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Béria Lima
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Thomas Dalton
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really
> isn't easy.
>
> What do you think?

I think the conference starts in 8.5 months and applications for
scholarships aren't even being accepted yet, so it is completely
impossible to give responses by 8 or 9 months before. I agree we need
to give people as long as possible to get visas, but the soonest we
could possibly get responses is at least 2 months away.

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Mateus Nobre
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Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid problems to Wikimania staff.


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

[hidden email] is there for this.

We also have [hidden email] , [hidden email] and http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
_____
Béria Lima
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Béria Lima
Mateus, Esplanada is there for this. If you are a brazilian editor you "MUST" know and follow pt.wiki esplanada (unless, of course, you're outside the country and edit en.wiki, es.wiki or fr.wiki (or any other) and in this case, the rules for visa are different).

And I'm completely against restrict scholarships based in visa.
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On 1 November 2011 20:41, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid problems to Wikimania staff.


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000

From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

[hidden email] is there for this.

We also have [hidden email] , [hidden email] and http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
_____
Béria Lima
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Mateus Nobre
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Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky and always can be denied.

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From: [hidden email]
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid problems to Wikimania staff.


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ateusNobre
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

[hidden email] is there for this.

We also have [hidden email] , [hidden email] and http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Thomas Dalton
On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> and always can be denied.

I meant 2 months from now, so about 6 months before the conference.
That should be enough time, but we would need to start accepting
scholarship applications within the next week or two, really.

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Béria Lima
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Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted.
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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky and always can be denied.

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From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300

Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid problems to Wikimania staff.


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ateusNobre
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

[hidden email] is there for this.

We also have [hidden email] , [hidden email] and http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
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On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
_____
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Mateus Nobre
I hope so, Beria. Really I'm more worried with the disappointment that the recipcient who couldn't get the visa would stay.


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:57 +0000
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted.
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(351) 925 171 484

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On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky and always can be denied.

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ateusNobre
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From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300

Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.

A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could avoid problems to Wikimania staff.


_____________________
M
ateusNobre
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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

[hidden email] is there for this.

We also have [hidden email] , [hidden email] and http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can be ;) )
_____
Béria Lima
(351) 925 171 484

Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
_____
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(351) 925 171 484

Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Huib Laurens
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Ehm... scholarship and suprise?

You should be able to check if its possble to get a visa before you apply? The same goes for taking vacation....

2011/11/1 Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]>
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
_____
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Mateus Nobre
Sorry for the errors, I'm writing fast.
I'm already prevented, the problem is the people who doesn't have the visa yet.


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:55:41 +0100
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Ehm... scholarship and suprise?

You should be able to check if its possble to get a visa before you apply? The same goes for taking vacation....

2011/11/1 Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]>
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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ateusNobre

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Josh Lim
I'm not sure if this helps: but can we get some perspectives on how the organizers of Wikimania 2006 (which was held in the U.S.) handled this issue?

Josh
 
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From: Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Sorry for the errors, I'm writing fast.
I'm already prevented, the problem is the people who doesn't have the visa yet.


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:55:41 +0100
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Ehm... scholarship and suprise?

You should be able to check if its possble to get a visa before you apply? The same goes for taking vacation....

2011/11/1 Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]>
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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ateusNobre

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
_____
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

Osmar Valdebenito
Here you can see the expected wait time for a visa in any US consulate.

2011/11/1 Josh Lim <[hidden email]>
I'm not sure if this helps: but can we get some perspectives on how the organizers of Wikimania 2006 (which was held in the U.S.) handled this issue?

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From: Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]>
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Sorry for the errors, I'm writing fast.
I'm already prevented, the problem is the people who doesn't have the visa yet.


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:55:41 +0100
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Ehm... scholarship and suprise?

You should be able to check if its possble to get a visa before you apply? The same goes for taking vacation....

2011/11/1 Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]>
For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries is really hard....


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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
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How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a result for your application.
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On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[hidden email]> wrote:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries

Hello everyone,

As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.

But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.

U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.

Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops  :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.

In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.

It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.

I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.

What do you think?

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Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue

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http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Visas

It was mentioned.

On Nov 1, 2011 11:31 PM, "Josh Lim" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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KIZU Naoko
Postmortem was (or were) held here and there and digging the list
archives might help. Or not.

IIRC one of lessons we got then 2006 was that the way then taken
wouldn't have been the best, and some sort of outsourcing would be
help. But then WMF has only two paid staffers, and US visa issuing
policy might be modified reflecting its relationship to the rest of
the world, so things might go differently next year...

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