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Pharos-3
Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...

Think of it:

Cascadia and New England!

Minnesota and Colorado!

LA and Atlanta!

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Bob the Wikipedian
Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington, and Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.

Bob (Evansville)

On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...

Think of it:

Cascadia and New England!

Minnesota and Colorado!

LA and Atlanta!

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

metasj
Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
would be natural with the cities of
Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
again (enclaves 2 and 3)
Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)

That covers about half of the country.

SJ

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington, and
> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>
> Bob (Evansville)
>
>
> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>
> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>
> Think of it:
>
> Cascadia and New England!
>
> Minnesota and Colorado!
>
> LA and Atlanta!
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
> (User:Pharos)
>
>
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Bob the Wikipedian
But none of those cities have a WALRUS chapter. :P

Bob

On 7/13/2013 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:

> Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
> would be natural with the cities of
> Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
> IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
> Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
> again (enclaves 2 and 3)
> Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)
>
> That covers about half of the country.
>
> SJ
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington, and
>> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
>> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>>
>> Bob (Evansville)
>>
>>
>> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>
>> Think of it:
>>
>> Cascadia and New England!
>>
>> Minnesota and Colorado!
>>
>> LA and Atlanta!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> (User:Pharos)
>>
>>
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

metasj
(yet!)

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> But none of those cities have a WALRUS chapter. :P
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 7/13/2013 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>> Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
>> would be natural with the cities of
>> Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
>> IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
>> Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
>> again (enclaves 2 and 3)
>> Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)
>>
>> That covers about half of the country.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington,
>>> and
>>> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
>>> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>>>
>>> Bob (Evansville)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>>
>>> Think of it:
>>>
>>> Cascadia and New England!
>>>
>>> Minnesota and Colorado!
>>>
>>> LA and Atlanta!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wikimediaus-l mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaus-l
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Pharos-3
Following up on Bob's idea of regional "sister cities" cooperation, I've grouped together some of the more active cities on the new enwiki template, by the Northeast, Midwest, South, and West:
Maybe it could be a good idea in future to have an on-wiki noticeboard for each of these four very rough chunks of the country, just to help with regional communication and scheduling of events (and especially as a way to reach out to some of the smaller / less active cities, and e.g. help the Texans settle on a meetup location).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Samuel Klein <[hidden email]> wrote:
(yet!)

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> But none of those cities have a WALRUS chapter. :P
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 7/13/2013 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>> Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
>> would be natural with the cities of
>> Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
>> IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
>> Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
>> again (enclaves 2 and 3)
>> Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)
>>
>> That covers about half of the country.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington,
>>> and
>>> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
>>> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>>>
>>> Bob (Evansville)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>>
>>> Think of it:
>>>
>>> Cascadia and New England!
>>>
>>> Minnesota and Colorado!
>>>
>>> LA and Atlanta!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wikimediaus-l mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaus-l
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wikimediaus-l mailing list
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>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaus-l
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Kirill Lokshin
The template looks good, but shouldn't we be using the same "Wikimedia United States Coalition" terminology that we use in the meta version of the template, so as to be consistent?

Cheers,
Kirill


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
Following up on Bob's idea of regional "sister cities" cooperation, I've grouped together some of the more active cities on the new enwiki template, by the Northeast, Midwest, South, and West:
Maybe it could be a good idea in future to have an on-wiki noticeboard for each of these four very rough chunks of the country, just to help with regional communication and scheduling of events (and especially as a way to reach out to some of the smaller / less active cities, and e.g. help the Texans settle on a meetup location).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Samuel Klein <[hidden email]> wrote:
(yet!)

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> But none of those cities have a WALRUS chapter. :P
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 7/13/2013 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>> Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
>> would be natural with the cities of
>> Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
>> IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
>> Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
>> again (enclaves 2 and 3)
>> Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)
>>
>> That covers about half of the country.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington,
>>> and
>>> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
>>> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>>>
>>> Bob (Evansville)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>>
>>> Think of it:
>>>
>>> Cascadia and New England!
>>>
>>> Minnesota and Colorado!
>>>
>>> LA and Atlanta!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wikimediaus-l mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaus-l
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaus-l
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

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Howdy,
I have recently moved to lawrence and am willing to retry some event
coordination, just have contacted the city library and will be
starting with a firefox day, after that would do a wikipedia day.
mike

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>
> Think of it:
>
> Cascadia and New England!
>
> Minnesota and Colorado!
>
> LA and Atlanta!
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
> (User:Pharos)
>
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Kevin Rutherford
Lawrence, Massachusetts?

Kevin Rutherford

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On Aug 8, 2013, at 10:33 PM, "Mike Dupont" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Howdy,
> I have recently moved to lawrence and am willing to retry some event
> coordination, just have contacted the city library and will be
> starting with a firefox day, after that would do a wikipedia day.
> mike
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>
>> Think of it:
>>
>> Cascadia and New England!
>>
>> Minnesota and Colorado!
>>
>> LA and Atlanta!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> (User:Pharos)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimediaus-l mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaus-l
>
>
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Jeremy Baron

On Aug 8, 2013 11:31 PM, "Kevin Rutherford" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Lawrence, Massachusetts?

my first guess was Kansas…


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Mike DuPont
Sorry, Kansas.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Jeremy Baron <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Aug 8, 2013 11:31 PM, "Kevin Rutherford" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Lawrence, Massachusetts?
>
> my first guess was Kansas…
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I was thinking that we could differentiate the two by developing the 'WALRUS' branding more as a wikiproject-type campaign on enwiki, while reserving the "official unofficial" name of 'Wikimedia United States Coalition' for the more bureaucratic niceties of meta (widespread use of the latter name outside of meta without explicit WMF go-ahead might also be problematic).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Kirill Lokshin <[hidden email]> wrote:
The template looks good, but shouldn't we be using the same "Wikimedia United States Coalition" terminology that we use in the meta version of the template, so as to be consistent?

Cheers,
Kirill


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
Following up on Bob's idea of regional "sister cities" cooperation, I've grouped together some of the more active cities on the new enwiki template, by the Northeast, Midwest, South, and West:
Maybe it could be a good idea in future to have an on-wiki noticeboard for each of these four very rough chunks of the country, just to help with regional communication and scheduling of events (and especially as a way to reach out to some of the smaller / less active cities, and e.g. help the Texans settle on a meetup location).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Samuel Klein <[hidden email]> wrote:
(yet!)

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> But none of those cities have a WALRUS chapter. :P
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 7/13/2013 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>> Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
>> would be natural with the cities of
>> Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
>> IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
>> Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
>> again (enclaves 2 and 3)
>> Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)
>>
>> That covers about half of the country.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington,
>>> and
>>> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
>>> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>>>
>>> Bob (Evansville)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>>
>>> Think of it:
>>>
>>> Cascadia and New England!
>>>
>>> Minnesota and Colorado!
>>>
>>> LA and Atlanta!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wikimediaus-l mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaus-l
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Kirill Lokshin
I'm not sure we can really separate the branding that way, since our en.wiki activity mostly consists of advertising for off-wiki events.  If someone from en.wiki shows up at a "WALRUS" event and starts talking to someone from meta who believes it to be a "Wikimedia US" event, there's still going to be some degree of confusion (and resulting brand dilution).

Personally, I think we're at the point where we need to select a single brand and stick with it everywhere, rather than trying to maintain multiple competing brands.

Cheers,
Kirill


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
I was thinking that we could differentiate the two by developing the 'WALRUS' branding more as a wikiproject-type campaign on enwiki, while reserving the "official unofficial" name of 'Wikimedia United States Coalition' for the more bureaucratic niceties of meta (widespread use of the latter name outside of meta without explicit WMF go-ahead might also be problematic).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Kirill Lokshin <[hidden email]> wrote:
The template looks good, but shouldn't we be using the same "Wikimedia United States Coalition" terminology that we use in the meta version of the template, so as to be consistent?

Cheers,
Kirill


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
Following up on Bob's idea of regional "sister cities" cooperation, I've grouped together some of the more active cities on the new enwiki template, by the Northeast, Midwest, South, and West:
Maybe it could be a good idea in future to have an on-wiki noticeboard for each of these four very rough chunks of the country, just to help with regional communication and scheduling of events (and especially as a way to reach out to some of the smaller / less active cities, and e.g. help the Texans settle on a meetup location).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Samuel Klein <[hidden email]> wrote:
(yet!)

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> But none of those cities have a WALRUS chapter. :P
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 7/13/2013 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>> Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
>> would be natural with the cities of
>> Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
>> IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
>> Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
>> again (enclaves 2 and 3)
>> Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)
>>
>> That covers about half of the country.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington,
>>> and
>>> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
>>> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>>>
>>> Bob (Evansville)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>>
>>> Think of it:
>>>
>>> Cascadia and New England!
>>>
>>> Minnesota and Colorado!
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Jason Moore
I lean towards dropping the WALRUS name, and sticking with the more legitimate-sounding Coalition.

Jason / Another Believer


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Kirill Lokshin <[hidden email]> wrote:
I'm not sure we can really separate the branding that way, since our en.wiki activity mostly consists of advertising for off-wiki events.  If someone from en.wiki shows up at a "WALRUS" event and starts talking to someone from meta who believes it to be a "Wikimedia US" event, there's still going to be some degree of confusion (and resulting brand dilution).

Personally, I think we're at the point where we need to select a single brand and stick with it everywhere, rather than trying to maintain multiple competing brands.

Cheers,
Kirill


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
I was thinking that we could differentiate the two by developing the 'WALRUS' branding more as a wikiproject-type campaign on enwiki, while reserving the "official unofficial" name of 'Wikimedia United States Coalition' for the more bureaucratic niceties of meta (widespread use of the latter name outside of meta without explicit WMF go-ahead might also be problematic).

Thanks,
Richard
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On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Kirill Lokshin <[hidden email]> wrote:
The template looks good, but shouldn't we be using the same "Wikimedia United States Coalition" terminology that we use in the meta version of the template, so as to be consistent?

Cheers,
Kirill


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
Following up on Bob's idea of regional "sister cities" cooperation, I've grouped together some of the more active cities on the new enwiki template, by the Northeast, Midwest, South, and West:
Maybe it could be a good idea in future to have an on-wiki noticeboard for each of these four very rough chunks of the country, just to help with regional communication and scheduling of events (and especially as a way to reach out to some of the smaller / less active cities, and e.g. help the Texans settle on a meetup location).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Samuel Klein <[hidden email]> wrote:
(yet!)

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> But none of those cities have a WALRUS chapter. :P
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 7/13/2013 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>> Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
>> would be natural with the cities of
>> Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
>> IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
>> Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
>> again (enclaves 2 and 3)
>> Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)
>>
>> That covers about half of the country.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington,
>>> and
>>> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
>>> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>>>
>>> Bob (Evansville)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>>
>>> Think of it:
>>>
>>> Cascadia and New England!
>>>
>>> Minnesota and Colorado!
>>>
>>> LA and Atlanta!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
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Re: Wikimedia US sister cities / regions

Kevin Rutherford
I second Jason, as WALRUS has never really sounded professional in my opinion, and I know there was talk at Wikimania in 2012 about finding a name to replace it. Right now, competing names don't help us, and I doubt most active Wikimedians could describe the function of each group mentioned below.

Kevin Rutherford

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On Aug 13, 2013, at 11:13 PM, "Jason Moore" <[hidden email]> wrote:

I lean towards dropping the WALRUS name, and sticking with the more legitimate-sounding Coalition.

Jason / Another Believer


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Kirill Lokshin <[hidden email]> wrote:
I'm not sure we can really separate the branding that way, since our en.wiki activity mostly consists of advertising for off-wiki events.  If someone from en.wiki shows up at a "WALRUS" event and starts talking to someone from meta who believes it to be a "Wikimedia US" event, there's still going to be some degree of confusion (and resulting brand dilution).

Personally, I think we're at the point where we need to select a single brand and stick with it everywhere, rather than trying to maintain multiple competing brands.

Cheers,
Kirill


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
I was thinking that we could differentiate the two by developing the 'WALRUS' branding more as a wikiproject-type campaign on enwiki, while reserving the "official unofficial" name of 'Wikimedia United States Coalition' for the more bureaucratic niceties of meta (widespread use of the latter name outside of meta without explicit WMF go-ahead might also be problematic).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Kirill Lokshin <[hidden email]> wrote:
The template looks good, but shouldn't we be using the same "Wikimedia United States Coalition" terminology that we use in the meta version of the template, so as to be consistent?

Cheers,
Kirill


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Pharos <[hidden email]> wrote:
Following up on Bob's idea of regional "sister cities" cooperation, I've grouped together some of the more active cities on the new enwiki template, by the Northeast, Midwest, South, and West:
Maybe it could be a good idea in future to have an on-wiki noticeboard for each of these four very rough chunks of the country, just to help with regional communication and scheduling of events (and especially as a way to reach out to some of the smaller / less active cities, and e.g. help the Texans settle on a meetup location).

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Samuel Klein <[hidden email]> wrote:
(yet!)

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Bob the Wikipedian
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> But none of those cities have a WALRUS chapter. :P
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 7/13/2013 11:35 AM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>
>> Boston is engaged in sibling rivalry and virtual event coordination
>> would be natural with the cities of
>> Boston and New Boston in  NH, NY (an enclave of Red Sox Nation), IN,
>> IL, OH, MI, KY, MO, AL, GA, and TX.
>> Cambridge in PA, ID, IA, KS, ME, MD, MN, NB, VT, and WI... and NY
>> again (enclaves 2 and 3)
>> Brighton in CO, OR, and TN (and enclaves 4-6 in NY)
>>
>> That covers about half of the country.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, we're already doing this in Indiana. Evansville, Bloomington,
>>> and
>>> Indianapolis are sister cities since we're within several hours of one
>>> another. We've been taking turns hosting the annual Wiknic.
>>>
>>> Bob (Evansville)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2013 9:40 AM, Pharos wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it might be a good idea to connect different local Wikimedian
>>> efforts through an informal sister cities / regions program...
>>>
>>> Think of it:
>>>
>>> Cascadia and New England!
>>>
>>> Minnesota and Colorado!
>>>
>>> LA and Atlanta!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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