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Josh Lim
Thank you, Patricio, for the heads-up.  I’m sure that it must’ve been difficult for everyone, especially those on the Board.

It was very honorable of Arnnon to step down in deference to the community, and I hope that while we may be indignant at his past actions, we can continue to find places for people in our community who may show an interest in what we do but to who we don’t always see eye-to-eye on our values.  While I still think that this episode will generate a whole lot of lessons for us to learn from, I hope that Arnnon will continue to engage with the movement in a meaningful way even though he is no longer a part of the Board.  Thank you for taking heed of the community, and I hope that despite what may be a rude awakening, that you will find your place among us, somehow, somewhere in the movement.

Hopefully, now that this episode has come to a close, we can finally begin the process of healing and figuring out what went wrong.  There’s still a lot of things left unaccounted for, and I hope that after this, the Board will continue to build on that momentum by doing the right thing and helping the community understand what on Earth happened over the last few weeks so we can finally move forward.

Josh

> Wiadomość napisana przez Patricio Lorente <[hidden email]> w dniu 28.01.2016, o godz. 04:52:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the
> Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed
> internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To
> paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important
> discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times
> to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping
> us to move forward.
>
> The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our
> selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure.
> We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our
> community, and also to Arnnon.
>
> Patricio and Alice
>
> ----
>
> Patricio Lorente
> Chair, Board of Trustees
>
> Alice Wiegand
> Vice Chair, Board of Trustees
> --
> _______________________________________________
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JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM
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Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University
Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in the Board

Kurt Kulac
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Am 28.01.2016 um 13:04 schrieb Josh Lim:

> Thank you, Patricio, for the heads-up.  I’m sure that it must’ve been difficult for everyone, especially those on the Board.
>
> It was very honorable of Arnnon to step down in deference to the community, and I hope that while we may be indignant at his past actions, we can continue to find places for people in our community who may show an interest in what we do but to who we don’t always see eye-to-eye on our values.  While I still think that this episode will generate a whole lot of lessons for us to learn from, I hope that Arnnon will continue to engage with the movement in a meaningful way even though he is no longer a part of the Board.  Thank you for taking heed of the community, and I hope that despite what may be a rude awakening, that you will find your place among us, somehow, somewhere in the movement.
>
> Hopefully, now that this episode has come to a close, we can finally begin the process of healing and figuring out what went wrong.  There’s still a lot of things left unaccounted for, and I hope that after this, the Board will continue to build on that momentum by doing the right thing and helping the community understand what on Earth happened over the last few weeks so we can finally move forward.
>
> Josh
>
>> Wiadomość napisana przez Patricio Lorente <[hidden email]> w dniu 28.01.2016, o godz. 04:52:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the
>> Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed
>> internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To
>> paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important
>> discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times
>> to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping
>> us to move forward.
>>
>> The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our
>> selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure.
>> We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our
>> community, and also to Arnnon.
>>
>> Patricio and Alice
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Patricio Lorente
>> Chair, Board of Trustees
>>
>> Alice Wiegand
>> Vice Chair, Board of Trustees
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
>> New messages to: [hidden email]
>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe>
> JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM
> Bachelor of Arts in Political Science
> Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University
> Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines
>
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> | +63 (915) 321-7582
> Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky Harbor
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in the Board

Lila Tretikov
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Hi Josh,

I agree there are solid improvements to be made with respect to recruiting
of our trustees, and with partnering with our community.  Perhaps the
election committee can play a role in checking out the finalists, for
example.

On-boarding trustees and leadership is a critical process, during which it
can be so easy to make unexpected mistakes. For trustees and leadership
coming from outside of our movement, being aligned with our vision and our
values is simply the first step in the process. As I have learned, from
there it is a long and difficult journey to learn what matters *most* to
our diverse community, and to align those values with the Foundation.  I am
still learning, and will never stop learning, growing and adapting.
Similarly, when trustees and leadership come from the *within* the
movement, they must adapt to and grok new perspectives, and see with new
lenses.

An essential part of improving our governance involves welcoming our
incoming trustees and leadership, integrating them into our movement, and
providing support and guidance as they take their important first steps.

I know this is something our trustees are actively thinking about.

Lila



On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Josh Lim <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you, Patricio, for the heads-up.  I’m sure that it must’ve been
> difficult for everyone, especially those on the Board.
>
> It was very honorable of Arnnon to step down in deference to the
> community, and I hope that while we may be indignant at his past actions,
> we can continue to find places for people in our community who may show an
> interest in what we do but to who we don’t always see eye-to-eye on our
> values.  While I still think that this episode will generate a whole lot of
> lessons for us to learn from, I hope that Arnnon will continue to engage
> with the movement in a meaningful way even though he is no longer a part of
> the Board.  Thank you for taking heed of the community, and I hope that
> despite what may be a rude awakening, that you will find your place among
> us, somehow, somewhere in the movement.
>
> Hopefully, now that this episode has come to a close, we can finally begin
> the process of healing and figuring out what went wrong.  There’s still a
> lot of things left unaccounted for, and I hope that after this, the Board
> will continue to build on that momentum by doing the right thing and
> helping the community understand what on Earth happened over the last few
> weeks so we can finally move forward.
>
> Josh
>
> > Wiadomość napisana przez Patricio Lorente <[hidden email]>
> w dniu 28.01.2016, o godz. 04:52:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the
> > Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed
> > internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To
> > paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the
> important
> > discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the
> times
> > to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for
> helping
> > us to move forward.
> >
> > The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our
> > selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s
> departure.
> > We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in
> our
> > community, and also to Arnnon.
> >
> > Patricio and Alice
> >
> > ----
> >
> > Patricio Lorente
> > Chair, Board of Trustees
> >
> > Alice Wiegand
> > Vice Chair, Board of Trustees
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
> > New messages to: [hidden email]
> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe>
>
> JAMES JOSHUA G. LIM
> Bachelor of Arts in Political Science
> Class of 2013, Ateneo de Manila University
> Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines
>
> [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> | +63 (915)
> 321-7582
> Facebook/Twitter: akiestar | Wikimedia: Sky Harbor
> http://about.me/josh.lim <http://about.me/josh.lim>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in the Board

Ruslan Takayev
In reply to this post by Patricio Lorente
Patricio, et al

Are we any closer to having public comments from the BoT on how the Arrnon
debacle was able to occur?

I am especially interested in how Boryana fits in with this. Given
Boryana's shared history t Telsa with Arnnon, she would surely have known
about Arnnon's past at Google, but it would appear this past was never
mentioned in the presentation to the board by her. At best this could be
seen as an attempt to secure "jobs for the boys"; at worst it can be seen
as incompetence on the part of Boryana.

On 11 January, Lila Tretikov posted to this very list,[1] and stated:

"I would like to thank everyone involved in this search, especially Amy
Elder and Boryana , who managed the recruiting process through a new, open
approach."

When was this "new, open approach" to recruitment introduced? It certainly
was not prior to the appoinment of Arnnon to the Board, otherwise we
wouldn't be where we are at now. And what is this "new, open approach"?

Unfortunately for Lila, she has now publicly backed her HR team, and as she
would certainly have been involved in the recruitment of Boryana, this
reflects poorly on her as well. Lila already has enough issues to deal
with, as they relate to her tenure as WMF ED, particularly if Gayle Young
is to be believed (there is nothing to suggest she shouldn't!)[2]

I look forward to a response Patricio, rather than the sound of crickets
that the community has come to expect from the WMF, the BoT and yourself
over the last month.

Warm regards,

Ruslan Takayev

[1]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080987.html
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_comment/Vote_of_no_confidence_on_Arnnon_Geshuri/sig&diff=prev&oldid=15276441

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Patricio Lorente <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the
> Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed
> internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To
> paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important
> discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times
> to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping
> us to move forward.
>
> The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our
> selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure.
> We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our
> community, and also to Arnnon.
>
> Patricio and Alice
>
> ----
>
> Patricio Lorente
> Chair, Board of Trustees
>
> Alice Wiegand
> Vice Chair, Board of Trustees
> --
> _______________________________________________
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> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Changes in the Board

Pine W
I am bumping this thread because I am very much interested in the questions
about the nature of the "new, open approach" to Board member recruiting
that led to the situation with Arnnon. Also, it is regrettably difficult to
avoid asking questions about the extent to which Boryana knew of Arnnon's
background and whether she adequately informed the governance committee of
what she knew.

Pine

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Ruslan Takayev <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Patricio, et al
>
> Are we any closer to having public comments from the BoT on how the Arrnon
> debacle was able to occur?
>
> I am especially interested in how Boryana fits in with this. Given
> Boryana's shared history t Telsa with Arnnon, she would surely have known
> about Arnnon's past at Google, but it would appear this past was never
> mentioned in the presentation to the board by her. At best this could be
> seen as an attempt to secure "jobs for the boys"; at worst it can be seen
> as incompetence on the part of Boryana.
>
> On 11 January, Lila Tretikov posted to this very list,[1] and stated:
>
> "I would like to thank everyone involved in this search, especially Amy
> Elder and Boryana , who managed the recruiting process through a new, open
> approach."
>
> When was this "new, open approach" to recruitment introduced? It certainly
> was not prior to the appoinment of Arnnon to the Board, otherwise we
> wouldn't be where we are at now. And what is this "new, open approach"?
>
> Unfortunately for Lila, she has now publicly backed her HR team, and as she
> would certainly have been involved in the recruitment of Boryana, this
> reflects poorly on her as well. Lila already has enough issues to deal
> with, as they relate to her tenure as WMF ED, particularly if Gayle Young
> is to be believed (there is nothing to suggest she shouldn't!)[2]
>
> I look forward to a response Patricio, rather than the sound of crickets
> that the community has come to expect from the WMF, the BoT and yourself
> over the last month.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ruslan Takayev
>
> [1]
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080987.html
> [2]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_comment/Vote_of_no_confidence_on_Arnnon_Geshuri/sig&diff=prev&oldid=15276441
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Patricio Lorente <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the
> > Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed
> > internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To
> > paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the
> important
> > discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the
> times
> > to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for
> helping
> > us to move forward.
> >
> > The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our
> > selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s
> departure.
> > We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in
> our
> > community, and also to Arnnon.
> >
> > Patricio and Alice
> >
> > ----
> >
> > Patricio Lorente
> > Chair, Board of Trustees
> >
> > Alice Wiegand
> > Vice Chair, Board of Trustees
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
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