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[Wikimedia-l] Tapping into the Backbone

Fred Bauder-2
"The GCHQ mass tapping operation has been built up over five years by
attaching intercept probes to transatlantic fibre-optic cables where they
land on British shores carrying data to western Europe from telephone
exchanges and internet servers in north America.

This was done under secret agreements with commercial companies,
described in one document as "intercept partners"."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa

Fred




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tapping into the Backbone

Huib Laurens
Can you please stop spamming Us With topics like this? Its not Wikimedia
related at all.

Huib

Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder ([hidden email]) het
volgende:

> "The GCHQ mass tapping operation has been built up over five years by
> attaching intercept probes to transatlantic fibre-optic cables where they
> land on British shores carrying data to western Europe from telephone
> exchanges and internet servers in north America.
>
> This was done under secret agreements with commercial companies,
> described in one document as "intercept partners"."
>
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa
>
> Fred
>
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Fred Bauder-2
> Can you please stop spamming Us With topics like this? Its not Wikimedia
> related at all.
>
> Huib

It is related. There was a question as to whether edits and other
activity on Wikipedia were being swept up. Obviously they are. Whether
activities of interest to intelligence agencies are logged or ever used
or how is another matter.

Fred

> Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder ([hidden email]) het
> volgende:
>
>> "The GCHQ mass tapping operation has been built up over five years by
>> attaching intercept probes to transatlantic fibre-optic cables where
>> they
>> land on British shores carrying data to western Europe from telephone
>> exchanges and internet servers in north America.
>>
>> This was done under secret agreements with commercial companies,
>> described in one document as "intercept partners"."
>>
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Huib Laurens
>



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tapping into the Backbone

Huib Laurens
Where is that question in this topic?

Huib

Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder ([hidden email]) het
volgende:

> > Can you please stop spamming Us With topics like this? Its not Wikimedia
> > related at all.
> >
> > Huib
>
> It is related. There was a question as to whether edits and other
> activity on Wikipedia were being swept up. Obviously they are. Whether
> activities of interest to intelligence agencies are logged or ever used
> or how is another matter.
>
> Fred
>
> > Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder ([hidden email]<javascript:;>)
> het
> > volgende:
> >
> >> "The GCHQ mass tapping operation has been built up over five years by
> >> attaching intercept probes to transatlantic fibre-optic cables where
> >> they
> >> land on British shores carrying data to western Europe from telephone
> >> exchanges and internet servers in north America.
> >>
> >> This was done under secret agreements with commercial companies,
> >> described in one document as "intercept partners"."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Met vriendelijke groet,
> >
> > Huib Laurens
> >
>
>
>
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Fred Bauder-2
In our earlier discussion about PRISM. Whether the intelligence agencies
could, if they felt it within their remit, access edits and other
actions, and, of course, passwords. Obviously they can easily if they are
not encrypted. Common sense, on the other hand will inform you that
nothing we do would be of interest to an intelligence agencies focused on
actual threats.

Fred

> Where is that question in this topic?
>
> Huib
>
> Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder ([hidden email]) het
> volgende:
>
>> > Can you please stop spamming Us With topics like this? Its not
>> Wikimedia
>> > related at all.
>> >
>> > Huib
>>
>> It is related. There was a question as to whether edits and other
>> activity on Wikipedia were being swept up. Obviously they are. Whether
>> activities of interest to intelligence agencies are logged or ever used
>> or how is another matter.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> > Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder
>> ([hidden email]<javascript:;>)
>> het
>> > volgende:
>> >
>> >> "The GCHQ mass tapping operation has been built up over five years
>> by
>> >> attaching intercept probes to transatlantic fibre-optic cables where
>> >> they
>> >> land on British shores carrying data to western Europe from
>> telephone
>> >> exchanges and internet servers in north America.
>> >>
>> >> This was done under secret agreements with commercial companies,
>> >> described in one document as "intercept partners"."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa
>> >>
>> >> Fred
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Wikimedia-l mailing list
>> >> [hidden email] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
>> >> Unsubscribe:
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Met vriendelijke groet,
>> >
>> > Huib Laurens
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
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>
> Huib Laurens
>



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