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Lodewijk
As the chapter status of Wikimedia Hong Kong has come to an end, I would
like to thank the volunteers at Wikimedia Hong Kong for their incredible
work over the past years. It is easy to start discussions about the
validity of the decision, or to play a blame game - but lets at least agree
some pretty cool stuff has been done over the past years.

Most of us will remember the Wikimania conference that was organized in
Hong Kong in 2013 - an amazing conference with an incredible amount of
volunteers that were collected from all over society to help welcome these
Wikipedians. Especially in their earliest years, I believe that Wikimedia
HK was active in supporting other Asian chapters to collaborate better and
grow.

Thank you, Wikimedians from Hong Kong, for your service! You have helped
the Wikimedia movement in Hong Kong a lot over the past years, and I hope
that we will still hear a lot from you in this new phase. The end of the
organization will hopefully not mean the end of your impactful work.

Best,

Lodewijk

2017-02-08 12:48 GMT+01:00 Wong Rover <[hidden email]>:

> Hi all,
>
> On behalf of WMHK, I would like to say something.
>
> Some may think it is pity that WMHK has been de-recognized. But the board
> of WMHK has actually already decided to disband the chapter.
>
> Although WMHK will cease to exist, I still hope the other chapters will
> continue to try their best in the Wikimedia movement.
>
> Regards,
> Rover Wong
> the last president of Wikimedia Hong Kong
>
> 2017年2月8日 下午7:10 於 "James Heilman" <[hidden email]> 寫道:
>
> > Thanks Kirill
> >
> > In my opinion this is reasonable. We need to have criteria for what
> > affiliation with the movement means and what it requires from those
> > affiliated. If the requirements are consistently not met than removing
> > official affiliation until it is is simply common practice.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 8, 2017, Kirill Lokshin <[hidden email]
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic
> > > organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent
> > > group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
> Wikimedia
> > > mission. While most affiliates adhere to the basic compliance standards
> > set
> > > forth in their agreements with the Wikimedia Foundation, a protocol has
> > > been developed to address the exceptional cases when a Wikimedia
> movement
> > > affiliate does not meet basic compliance standards and their continued
> > > recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate presents a risk to the
> > > Wikimedia movement.
> > >
> > > On September 9, 2016, Wikimedia Hong Kong was notified of their
> > suspension
> > > as a Wikimedia affiliate due to long standing non-compliance with
> > reporting
> > > requirements, and was provided with an explicit list of tasks and
> > deadlines
> > > in order to return to compliance with their chapter agreement. The
> > chapter
> > > failed to complete these tasks by the deadline of November 1, 2016, and
> > was
> > > consequently notified that they would no longer be recognized as a
> > > Wikimedia chapter after the termination of their Chapter Agreement on
> > > February 1, 2017.
> > >
> > > If you have questions about what this means for the community members
> in
> > > Wikimedia Hong Kong’s geographic area or language scope, we have put
> > > together a very basic FAQ, which may be found at
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_
> > > affiliate_de-recognition_FAQ
> > > .
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kirill Lokshin
> > > Vice-Chair, Affiliations Committee
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > > wiki/Wikimedia-l
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> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
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> > > ?subject=unsubscribe>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > James Heilman
> > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
> >
> > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
> > _______________________________________________
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for your service, Wikimedia Hong Kong

Vi to
Just a question: can a former chapter reapply for recognition?

Vito

2017-02-08 16:13 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <[hidden email]>:

> As the chapter status of Wikimedia Hong Kong has come to an end, I would
> like to thank the volunteers at Wikimedia Hong Kong for their incredible
> work over the past years. It is easy to start discussions about the
> validity of the decision, or to play a blame game - but lets at least agree
> some pretty cool stuff has been done over the past years.
>
> Most of us will remember the Wikimania conference that was organized in
> Hong Kong in 2013 - an amazing conference with an incredible amount of
> volunteers that were collected from all over society to help welcome these
> Wikipedians. Especially in their earliest years, I believe that Wikimedia
> HK was active in supporting other Asian chapters to collaborate better and
> grow.
>
> Thank you, Wikimedians from Hong Kong, for your service! You have helped
> the Wikimedia movement in Hong Kong a lot over the past years, and I hope
> that we will still hear a lot from you in this new phase. The end of the
> organization will hopefully not mean the end of your impactful work.
>
> Best,
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2017-02-08 12:48 GMT+01:00 Wong Rover <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > On behalf of WMHK, I would like to say something.
> >
> > Some may think it is pity that WMHK has been de-recognized. But the board
> > of WMHK has actually already decided to disband the chapter.
> >
> > Although WMHK will cease to exist, I still hope the other chapters will
> > continue to try their best in the Wikimedia movement.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rover Wong
> > the last president of Wikimedia Hong Kong
> >
> > 2017年2月8日 下午7:10 於 "James Heilman" <[hidden email]> 寫道:
> >
> > > Thanks Kirill
> > >
> > > In my opinion this is reasonable. We need to have criteria for what
> > > affiliation with the movement means and what it requires from those
> > > affiliated. If the requirements are consistently not met than removing
> > > official affiliation until it is is simply common practice.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, February 8, 2017, Kirill Lokshin <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic
> > > > organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an
> independent
> > > > group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
> > Wikimedia
> > > > mission. While most affiliates adhere to the basic compliance
> standards
> > > set
> > > > forth in their agreements with the Wikimedia Foundation, a protocol
> has
> > > > been developed to address the exceptional cases when a Wikimedia
> > movement
> > > > affiliate does not meet basic compliance standards and their
> continued
> > > > recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate presents a risk to the
> > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > >
> > > > On September 9, 2016, Wikimedia Hong Kong was notified of their
> > > suspension
> > > > as a Wikimedia affiliate due to long standing non-compliance with
> > > reporting
> > > > requirements, and was provided with an explicit list of tasks and
> > > deadlines
> > > > in order to return to compliance with their chapter agreement. The
> > > chapter
> > > > failed to complete these tasks by the deadline of November 1, 2016,
> and
> > > was
> > > > consequently notified that they would no longer be recognized as a
> > > > Wikimedia chapter after the termination of their Chapter Agreement on
> > > > February 1, 2017.
> > > >
> > > > If you have questions about what this means for the community members
> > in
> > > > Wikimedia Hong Kong’s geographic area or language scope, we have put
> > > > together a very basic FAQ, which may be found at
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_
> > > > affiliate_de-recognition_FAQ
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kirill Lokshin
> > > > Vice-Chair, Affiliations Committee
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l
> > > > New messages to: [hidden email] <javascript:;>
> > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/
> mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> > > > <mailto:[hidden email] <javascript:;>
> > > > ?subject=unsubscribe>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Heilman
> > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
> > >
> > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
> > > _______________________________________________
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for your service, Wikimedia Hong Kong

Manuel Schneider-3
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Thanks Lodewijk for bringing this up and thanks a lot to Wikimedia Hong
Kong.

I have been in touch with WMHK and Wikimedians in Hong Kong since their
application for Wikimania and have been at Wikimania and it was great.
There has also been some other activities and efforts which we must
acknowledge and we should appreciate all that has been done towards our
common goals, even or especially as some things - like running the
chapter - did not work out. That is not a failure as many other great
things have happened.

/Manuel

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for your service, Wikimedia Hong Kong

Shabab Mustafa
Personally, I am a big believer of a John Wooden quote, "Failure isn't
fatal, but failure to change might be". So, all the best to the Wikimedians
of Hong Kong. Thank you very much for all the good works that you have done
in past. I am sure that you will stack all the odds in your favors and come
back with something better.

Best wishes.

---
Shabab Mustafa
WMBD

---
Shabab Mustafa

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Manuel Schneider <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks Lodewijk for bringing this up and thanks a lot to Wikimedia Hong
> Kong.
>
> I have been in touch with WMHK and Wikimedians in Hong Kong since their
> application for Wikimania and have been at Wikimania and it was great.
> There has also been some other activities and efforts which we must
> acknowledge and we should appreciate all that has been done towards our
> common goals, even or especially as some things - like running the
> chapter - did not work out. That is not a failure as many other great
> things have happened.
>
> /Manuel
>
> --
> Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
> www.wikimedia.ch
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you for your service, Wikimedia Hong Kong

Delphine Ménard
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Hi Vito,

yes it can. Basically, while there is space for just one chapter per
country, if another group forms and decides to take up the role of
Wikimedia HK, they can apply to be a chapter, since there is no chapter
recognized any more. This happened with Wikimedia UK
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK>, where the first iteration of
the chapter was dissolved, and a second was then recognized as the official
chapter.

Best,

Delphine

On 8 February 2017 at 16:20, Vi to <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Just a question: can a former chapter reapply for recognition?
>
> Vito
>
> 2017-02-08 16:13 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <[hidden email]>:
>
> > As the chapter status of Wikimedia Hong Kong has come to an end, I would
> > like to thank the volunteers at Wikimedia Hong Kong for their incredible
> > work over the past years. It is easy to start discussions about the
> > validity of the decision, or to play a blame game - but lets at least
> agree
> > some pretty cool stuff has been done over the past years.
> >
> > Most of us will remember the Wikimania conference that was organized in
> > Hong Kong in 2013 - an amazing conference with an incredible amount of
> > volunteers that were collected from all over society to help welcome
> these
> > Wikipedians. Especially in their earliest years, I believe that Wikimedia
> > HK was active in supporting other Asian chapters to collaborate better
> and
> > grow.
> >
> > Thank you, Wikimedians from Hong Kong, for your service! You have helped
> > the Wikimedia movement in Hong Kong a lot over the past years, and I hope
> > that we will still hear a lot from you in this new phase. The end of the
> > organization will hopefully not mean the end of your impactful work.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Lodewijk
> >
> > 2017-02-08 12:48 GMT+01:00 Wong Rover <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > On behalf of WMHK, I would like to say something.
> > >
> > > Some may think it is pity that WMHK has been de-recognized. But the
> board
> > > of WMHK has actually already decided to disband the chapter.
> > >
> > > Although WMHK will cease to exist, I still hope the other chapters will
> > > continue to try their best in the Wikimedia movement.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Rover Wong
> > > the last president of Wikimedia Hong Kong
> > >
> > > 2017年2月8日 下午7:10 於 "James Heilman" <[hidden email]> 寫道:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Kirill
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion this is reasonable. We need to have criteria for what
> > > > affiliation with the movement means and what it requires from those
> > > > affiliated. If the requirements are consistently not met than
> removing
> > > > official affiliation until it is is simply common practice.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, February 8, 2017, Kirill Lokshin <
> > [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic
> > > > > organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an
> > independent
> > > > > group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
> > > Wikimedia
> > > > > mission. While most affiliates adhere to the basic compliance
> > standards
> > > > set
> > > > > forth in their agreements with the Wikimedia Foundation, a protocol
> > has
> > > > > been developed to address the exceptional cases when a Wikimedia
> > > movement
> > > > > affiliate does not meet basic compliance standards and their
> > continued
> > > > > recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate presents a risk to
> the
> > > > > Wikimedia movement.
> > > > >
> > > > > On September 9, 2016, Wikimedia Hong Kong was notified of their
> > > > suspension
> > > > > as a Wikimedia affiliate due to long standing non-compliance with
> > > > reporting
> > > > > requirements, and was provided with an explicit list of tasks and
> > > > deadlines
> > > > > in order to return to compliance with their chapter agreement. The
> > > > chapter
> > > > > failed to complete these tasks by the deadline of November 1, 2016,
> > and
> > > > was
> > > > > consequently notified that they would no longer be recognized as a
> > > > > Wikimedia chapter after the termination of their Chapter Agreement
> on
> > > > > February 1, 2017.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have questions about what this means for the community
> members
> > > in
> > > > > Wikimedia Hong Kong’s geographic area or language scope, we have
> put
> > > > > together a very basic FAQ, which may be found at
> > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_
> > > > > affiliate_de-recognition_FAQ
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kirill Lokshin
> > > > > Vice-Chair, Affiliations Committee
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l
> > > > > New messages to: [hidden email] <javascript:;>
> > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/
> > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
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> > > > > ?subject=unsubscribe>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > James Heilman
> > > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
> > > >
> > > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine
> > > > _______________________________________________
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