[Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

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[Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Amir E. Aharoni
Something positive... I just wanted to express my sincere thanks to the
people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata.

Many of them happen to be my colleagues, but I thank them here as a
Wikimedian who frequently does editing workshops.

I did a workshop today, and I was really happy to have these three pieces
of software.

Echo, because a participant specifically asked whether he would get a
notification if someone reverted his edit. I was happy to say that a few
months ago a feature was deployed that does just that. A year ago I
wouldn't be able to say that.

VisualEditor, because it saved so much time, both for the newbies and for
the workshop organizers. In the past I would spend many minutes explaining
about [[]], ====, '''''', <ref name="
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ"> and other monstrosities. Today
I just told them to use VisualEditor. In particular, I want to thank the VE
developers for the recently released feature for editing the image
properties. A year ago I wouldn't be able to say that.

Wikidata, because many people there wrote translations of articles, and
adding interlanguage links was easy and natural. Click "Add links", pick a
language, write the title, that's it. Two years ago I would have to explain
about square brackets and colons. Some of them just did it by themselves
without even asking me.

So thank you so much.

PS: They also liked UniversalLanguageSelector for easy switching of the
interface language and for being able to effortlessly type in Amharic. I'm
really biased about this, but I do thank everybody in my team for this.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Tomasz W. Kozlowski
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:

> In the past I would spend many minutes explaining
> about [[]], ====, '''''', <ref name="
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ"> and other monstrosities.

You should never, ever use URL as a name for a reference. :-)

But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a
feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot imagine
discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it so I
wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!

                 Tomasz

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Gryllida
With due thanks, I would like to specifically point to these two bugs, as I believe they're changing the style of talking unnecessarily. I would like you to see the potential for fixing these early.

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49446 - Notifications: Linking a username in an Edit-Summary should trigger a notification
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30750 - Notify user when username used in an edit summary

gry

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Federico Leva (Nemo)
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And I'd like to thank those who are working on making default settings
saner, because at the last presentation I gave in March I could just
tell them how easy it is for them to follow what happens to pages after
their edits.
<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=50039&maxdepth=1&hide_resolved=0>

(We were not able to see VisualEditor because the library "doesn't have
money" to upgrade their Windows computers...)

Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Lydia Pintscher
In reply to this post by Amir E. Aharoni
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wikidata, because many people there wrote translations of articles, and
> adding interlanguage links was easy and natural. Click "Add links", pick a
> language, write the title, that's it. Two years ago I would have to explain
> about square brackets and colons. Some of them just did it by themselves
> without even asking me.
>
> So thank you so much.

Thank you, Amir! That's great to hear :)


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Arjuna Rao Chavala-2
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Amir,


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Something positive... I just wanted to express my sincere thanks to the
> people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata.
>

+1. IMO Echo is the most useful and easy to use and helps keep the
discussions on relevant talk pages.

Cheers
Arjuna
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Yaroslav M. Blanter
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On 09.04.2014 21:03, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a
> feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot
> imagine discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it
> so I wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!
>
>                 Tomasz

Echo is an absolutely great thing, and I am a heavy echo user, however,
I am not sure it is scalable. Getting one, two or even ten notifications
per day is ok, but if I start getting dozens, I am not sure I would be
able to handle them for example after a day off. So that I am not sure
it would survive if everybody starts using it heavily.

Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Mike Peel


> On 12 Apr 2014, at 08:45, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 09.04.2014 21:03, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
>> But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a
>> feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot
>> imagine discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it
>> so I wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!
>>                Tomasz
>
> Echo is an absolutely great thing, and I am a heavy echo user, however, I am not sure it is scalable. Getting one, two or even ten notifications per day is ok, but if I start getting dozens, I am not sure I would be able to handle them for example after a day off. So that I am not sure it would survive if everybody starts using it heavily.

If notifications are batched, then I think echo would work well for this. For example, I'd love to see it giving notifications of when photos from Commons are used in the projects, along the lines of '10 of your photos were added to Wikipedia articles. Click to expand this notification/find out more.'

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks to the people who made Echo, VisualEditor and Wikidata

Jon Davies
It always makes me happy when I find one of mine being used (a rare rhing
in reality) but would surely encourage retention of contributors.


On 12 April 2014 08:05, Mike Peel <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> > On 12 Apr 2014, at 08:45, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 09.04.2014 21:03, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
> >> But I want to join you in thanking the people behind Echo; it's a
> >> feature I use virtually everyday, and one without which I cannot
> >> imagine discussing any issue on-wiki; I only wish more people used it
> >> so I wouldn't miss all those interesting debates!
> >>                Tomasz
> >
> > Echo is an absolutely great thing, and I am a heavy echo user, however,
> I am not sure it is scalable. Getting one, two or even ten notifications
> per day is ok, but if I start getting dozens, I am not sure I would be able
> to handle them for example after a day off. So that I am not sure it would
> survive if everybody starts using it heavily.
>
> If notifications are batched, then I think echo would work well for this.
> For example, I'd love to see it giving notifications of when photos from
> Commons are used in the projects, along the lines of '10 of your photos
> were added to Wikipedia articles. Click to expand this notification/find
> out more.'
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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