Hello colleagues,
*Overview* A video tutorial for creating references on Wikipedia with VisualEditor is in development for English Wikipedia and possibly also for Spanish Wikipedia. Publication is likely to happen in March 2019. If this tutorial is well received then additional tutorials may follow. If you would like to receive notifications regarding the availability of draft or finished tutorial products, or to learn additional information, then please continue reading below. *How can I request notifications for when drafts or finished products are ready for review?* If you would like to receive a notice when a draft or finished product is ready for public review then I invite you to go to the the project talk page and follow the link to the newsletter subscription page [1]. During the development of this single tutorial the newsletters are likely to be short. I am likely to send approximately 3 to 6 notifications to subscribers between now and the end of this mini-project. (The reason that I am not including a link to the newsletter's subscription page directly in this email is that I may change the name of the newsletter in the future, and I prefer to minimize any potential confusion and the number of redirect pages, so I think that including a link from this email to the talk page is preferable because the location of the talk page is likely to remain stable.) *Background information* Some of you may remember the project that was originally named LearnWiki [2]. For various painful reasons that project was not completed within the original schedule and budget. However, I continue to believe that video tutorials Wikimedia projects could be very useful for new contributors, and also for helpers who could use the videos to demonstrate concepts to new contributors. I think of this project as being a pilot iteration for "LearnWiki version 2.0", or maybe "LearnWiki 2.0 beta 1", with a major change between this effort and the original LearnWiki project being how the project is executed. The goal for this tutorial remains aligned with the original vision for LearnWiki. I believe that I know more about project management than I did when I attempted LearnWiki version 1.0. WMF approved a rapid grant for me to develop a single tutorial module [3] regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor. This tutorial is in development, I and I plan to publish the finalized script and video in March 2019. Depending on the amount of remaining funds after development of the English version of this tutorial and on whether WMF agrees, in addition to an English version of the tutorial I may also produce a Spanish version within the budget of the current rapid grant. Additional translations or derivative versions would be welcome from anyone who would like to create them. If this first tutorial is well received then I may request funding for additional tutorials. Within the next few days I plan to publish the first complete draft of the script for the referencing tutorial. I will place a link to that draft on the project talk page [1], and I am likely to create links from the same talk page to further drafts and additional tutorial products. If you would like to receive project updates then please watch the talk page and/or subscribe to the newsletter. I welcome any comments or questions that you have, either on a mailing list or on the project talk page [1]. Yours in service, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Motivational_and_educational_video_to_introduce_Wikimedia [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [hidden email] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> |
We have also some videotutorials in Basque: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_tutorial_videos_in_Basque
________________________________ From: Education <[hidden email]> on behalf of Lennart Guldbrandsson <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:53 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public]; Wikimedia Education Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor Hello, This is really good. I've been thinking about doing tutorials too, but so far I haven't started. Sara Mörtsell did a few videos in Swedish some time ago (for instance https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ALektion_3_-_l%C3%A4gg_till_k%C3%A4lla_och_referenslista.webm) but they need to be updated. When you do these, please try to document the process as well, to make it easier for others to replicate it. Thanks. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson @aliasHannibal<http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal> - på Twitter ________________________________ Från: Education <[hidden email]> för Pine W <[hidden email]> Skickat: den 26 februari 2019 04:48 Till: Wikimedia Mailing List; Wikimedia Education; Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public] Ämne: [Wikimedia Education] Video tutorial regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor Hello colleagues, *Overview* A video tutorial for creating references on Wikipedia with VisualEditor is in development for English Wikipedia and possibly also for Spanish Wikipedia. Publication is likely to happen in March 2019. If this tutorial is well received then additional tutorials may follow. If you would like to receive notifications regarding the availability of draft or finished tutorial products, or to learn additional information, then please continue reading below. *How can I request notifications for when drafts or finished products are ready for review?* If you would like to receive a notice when a draft or finished product is ready for public review then I invite you to go to the the project talk page and follow the link to the newsletter subscription page [1]. During the development of this single tutorial the newsletters are likely to be short. I am likely to send approximately 3 to 6 notifications to subscribers between now and the end of this mini-project. (The reason that I am not including a link to the newsletter's subscription page directly in this email is that I may change the name of the newsletter in the future, and I prefer to minimize any potential confusion and the number of redirect pages, so I think that including a link from this email to the talk page is preferable because the location of the talk page is likely to remain stable.) *Background information* Some of you may remember the project that was originally named LearnWiki [2]. For various painful reasons that project was not completed within the original schedule and budget. However, I continue to believe that video tutorials Wikimedia projects could be very useful for new contributors, and also for helpers who could use the videos to demonstrate concepts to new contributors. I think of this project as being a pilot iteration for "LearnWiki version 2.0", or maybe "LearnWiki 2.0 beta 1", with a major change between this effort and the original LearnWiki project being how the project is executed. The goal for this tutorial remains aligned with the original vision for LearnWiki. I believe that I know more about project management than I did when I attempted LearnWiki version 1.0. WMF approved a rapid grant for me to develop a single tutorial module [3] regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor. This tutorial is in development, I and I plan to publish the finalized script and video in March 2019. Depending on the amount of remaining funds after development of the English version of this tutorial and on whether WMF agrees, in addition to an English version of the tutorial I may also produce a Spanish version within the budget of the current rapid grant. Additional translations or derivative versions would be welcome from anyone who would like to create them. If this first tutorial is well received then I may request funding for additional tutorials. Within the next few days I plan to publish the first complete draft of the script for the referencing tutorial. I will place a link to that draft on the project talk page [1], and I am likely to create links from the same talk page to further drafts and additional tutorial products. If you would like to receive project updates then please watch the talk page and/or subscribe to the newsletter. I welcome any comments or questions that you have, either on a mailing list or on the project talk page [1]. Yours in service, Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Motivational_and_educational_video_to_introduce_Wikimedia [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series _______________________________________________ Education mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education _______________________________________________ Education mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [hidden email] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> |
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Hi Pine:
Past year, Wikimedia Chile has created a tutorial to add references using VisualEditor. This material will be used this year for Wikipedia en la Universidad (Wikipedia at University), our local program for university teachers and students. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tutoriales_WMCL_-_Agregar_referencias.webm Anyway, new material in Spanish is welcome and you could ask us about the "Spanish translation" due difference between some South America countries and Spain. Kindly El mar., 26 de feb. de 2019 00:50, Pine W <[hidden email]> escribió: > Hello colleagues, > > *Overview* > > A video tutorial for creating references on Wikipedia with VisualEditor is > in development for English Wikipedia and possibly also for Spanish > Wikipedia. Publication is likely to happen in March 2019. If this tutorial > is well received then additional tutorials may follow. > > If you would like to receive notifications regarding the availability of > draft or finished tutorial products, or to learn additional information, > then please continue reading below. > > *How can I request notifications for when drafts or finished products are > ready for review?* > > If you would like to receive a notice when a draft or finished product is > ready for public review then I invite you to go to the the project talk > page and follow the link to the newsletter subscription page [1]. During > the development of this single tutorial the newsletters are likely to be > short. I am likely to send approximately 3 to 6 notifications to > subscribers between now and the end of this mini-project. > > (The reason that I am not including a link to the newsletter's subscription > page directly in this email is that I may change the name of the newsletter > in the future, and I prefer to minimize any potential confusion and the > number of redirect pages, so I think that including a link from this email > to the talk page is preferable because the location of the talk page is > likely to remain stable.) > > *Background information* > > Some of you may remember the project that was originally named LearnWiki > [2]. For various painful reasons that project was not completed within the > original schedule and budget. However, I continue to believe that video > tutorials Wikimedia projects could be very useful for new contributors, and > also for helpers who could use the videos to demonstrate concepts to new > contributors. I think of this project as being a pilot iteration for > "LearnWiki version 2.0", or maybe "LearnWiki 2.0 beta 1", with a major > change between this effort and the original LearnWiki project being how the > project is executed. The goal for this tutorial remains aligned with the > original vision for LearnWiki. I believe that I know more about project > management than I did when I attempted LearnWiki version 1.0. > > WMF approved a rapid grant for me to develop a single tutorial module [3] > regarding creating Wikipedia references with VisualEditor. This tutorial is > in development, I and I plan to publish the finalized script and video in > March 2019. Depending on the amount of remaining funds after development of > the English version of this tutorial and on whether WMF agrees, in addition > to an English version of the tutorial I may also produce a Spanish version > within the budget of the current rapid grant. Additional translations or > derivative versions would be welcome from anyone who would like to create > them. > > If this first tutorial is well received then I may request funding for > additional tutorials. > > Within the next few days I plan to publish the first complete draft of the > script for the referencing tutorial. I will place a link to that draft on > the project talk page [1], and I am likely to create links from the same > talk page to further drafts and additional tutorial products. If you would > like to receive project updates then please watch the talk page and/or > subscribe to the newsletter. > > I welcome any comments or questions that you have, either on a mailing list > or on the project talk page [1]. > > Yours in service, > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > > [1] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series > > [2] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Motivational_and_educational_video_to_introduce_Wikimedia > > [3] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [hidden email] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [hidden email] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> |
Thanks very much for the information regarding these videos in Swedish,
Basque, and Spanish. I'm impressed by the quality of the recent videos in Basque and Spanish that I watched, to the extent that I understand them. In the past two to three years have I also learned about recently produced instructional videos through publications such as affiliates' reports and *This Month in Education* <https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News>. To the extent that I understand the video in Spanish that Dennis linked <https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tutoriales_WMCL_-_Agregar_referencias.webm>, I think that it is very good, so I'm now thinking that I will suggest to WMF that I not create a Spanish version of the video that I am producing, but in the future if there is interest in having instructional videos in Spanish regarding different subjects that are not already covered by existing videos then I may propose creating Spanish versions of videos that I plan for English Wikipedia, Commons, or other projects. As far as I know, there is no easily accessible catalog of what Wikimedia instructional videos exist. Finding some instructional videos is possible using the Commons category tree and by searching for file names on Commons, but not all videos are easy to find using those methods, and several instructional videos that I found on Commons are outdated. I boldly created a page here <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series/Catalog_of_Wikimedia_instructional_videos> for cataloging Wikimedia instructional videos, and I would like to invite people to expand that list, especially for videos which contain current information and have good production quality. Hopefully having a common catalog will help those of us who produce videos to get ideas from watching others' videos, and to consider whether to translate or reuse portions of existing videos. If someone thinks that they have a better idea for cataloging existing Wikimedia instructional videos, or if there is a catalog that already exists, please reply to this thread or contact me off list. Regarding documenting my process, I am placing notes <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series/Notes> on Meta that are in addition to the grant proposal, the talk page for the grant proposal, and the scripts. Thanks again for sharing information. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [hidden email] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> |
It's fascinating how diverse these tutorials are, especially that they
serve a similar purpose, thank you very much for sharing! At Wikimedia Israel we have been developing an instructional website in Arabic called Wiki Warsha ويكي ورشة ("wiki workshop"). The tutorials consist of multimedia elements (video, text, images), and are divided into 13 chapters taking into account the particularities of Arabic Wikipedia. The tutorials provide self-learners and new comers with basic information on the following: Wikipedia homepage structure, About Wikipedia articles, Creating an account, Signing with a registered account, Creating a userpage, Writing a new article, Editing an article, Formatting the article, Adding image, Adding internal and external links, Adding references, Adding categories, Request edits approval on Arabic Wikipedia. The choice to make video, text and image tutorials in a website format was made in order ensure access on different devices including smartphones and tablets, and to make the web content accessible to people with disabilities too. Attaching in the link a sample draft of one of the videos we are working on, Adding images: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zV1CrIpoENpPd1OR4rRgy0QncR-NE1O8/view In the past, the chapter has developed an interactive courseware in Hebrew which has proved to be successful. The courseware is divided into four chapters: 1) The interface 2) Editing article and userpage 3) Talk and community 4) Adding images. For example, Link: Editing interface <https://wikimedia.org.il/wp-content/plugins/sgc-wikimedia-elearning//Standing/Wikimedia_UNIT2_ver5/index.html> (Hebrew) *Bekriah* On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 2:35 AM Pine W <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks very much for the information regarding these videos in Swedish, > Basque, and Spanish. I'm impressed by the quality of the recent videos in > Basque and Spanish that I watched, to the extent that I understand them. In > the past two to three years have I also learned about recently produced > instructional videos through publications such as affiliates' reports and > *This > Month in Education* <https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News>. > > To the extent that I understand the video in Spanish that Dennis linked > < > https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tutoriales_WMCL_-_Agregar_referencias.webm > >, > I think that it is very good, so I'm now thinking that I will suggest to > WMF that I not create a Spanish version of the video that I am producing, > but in the future if there is interest in having instructional videos in > Spanish regarding different subjects that are not already covered by > existing videos then I may propose creating Spanish versions of videos that > I plan for English Wikipedia, Commons, or other projects. > > As far as I know, there is no easily accessible catalog of what Wikimedia > instructional videos exist. Finding some instructional videos is possible > using the Commons category tree and by searching for file names on Commons, > but not all videos are easy to find using those methods, and several > instructional videos that I found on Commons are outdated. I boldly created > a page here > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series/Catalog_of_Wikimedia_instructional_videos > > > for cataloging Wikimedia instructional videos, and I would like to invite > people to expand that list, especially for videos which contain current > information and have good production quality. Hopefully having a common > catalog will help those of us who produce videos to get ideas from watching > others' videos, and to consider whether to translate or reuse portions of > existing videos. If someone thinks that they have a better idea for > cataloging existing Wikimedia instructional videos, or if there is a > catalog that already exists, please reply to this thread or contact me off > list. > > Regarding documenting my process, I am placing notes > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series/Notes > > > on Meta that are in addition to the grant proposal, the talk page for the > grant proposal, and the scripts. > > Thanks again for sharing information. > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > -- *بكريّة مواسي* *منسّقة المشاريع التّربويّة* *Bekriah Mawasi* *Arabic Education Coordinator* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [hidden email] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> |
Hi Bekriah,
Thanks for sharing the Arabic and Hebrew resources. Would you please add the those resources to this catalog of tutorials <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series/Catalog_of_Wikimedia_instructional_videos>? My impression from my brief look is that the Hebrew tutorials use JavaScript instead of video, but the goal is similar to instructional videos, so I think that adding those tutorials to the catalog would be good. There is a section in the catalog for tutorials which are in development and not finished. I added a column to the tables to indicate whether a tutorial is a video, interactive, or both. Below are some additional comments that I have regarding the possibility of adapting the video that I am producing for diverse language editions of Wikipedia. For the video that I am currently developing regarding referencing with VisualEditor, I am keeping translatability and accessibility in mind. I am hoping that the subtitles can be translated into non-English languages, or at least languages which Google Translate understands well, with relative ease. The images and animations in each language edition of the video would ideally be in the same language as the subtitles. Changing images and animations will likely require more time than translating the subtitles. My current pilot project in English will almost certainly finish this month. After the end of this pilot project, I might request funding for a full adaptation of the video into a non-English language, and if that goes well then I could request additional funding for additional adaptations. I know enough Spanish that I could probably adapt English Wikipedia videos for Spanish Wikipedia with a relatively modest level of help from native Spanish speakers, but I would need more support for languages which I don't know well such as Romanian or French, and even more help for languages which are written in diverse alphabets and which Google Translate translates poorly or not at all. I would like to help with adaptations for diverse Wikipedia language communities. I am mindful that an issue when adapting instructional videos for diverse Wikipedia language editions is that there may be variations in policies and workflows. I would want to account for those variations when creating adaptations of videos. At this time I can't promise that this English language video will be adapted for additional language editions of Wikipedia to use, but I think that there is a good possibility that if the English version of this video is well accepted and used by the English Wikipedia community, then the video may be adapted for more language editions of Wikipedia. :) Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [hidden email] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> |
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Hi Avery,
You might be interested in my final report from the previous grant, which is at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Motivational_and_educational_video_to_introduce_Wikimedia/Final#Learning . I was not planning to publish the referencing videos to YouTube, but I think that's a good idea. Do you have any suggestions about how to make the videos be easy for people to find if they search for Wikipedia help with referencing on Youtube? If so, I would be appreciative if you'd add those comments to the project talk page at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_series . Accessibility and translation are very much in my mind as I'm working on the current script. An issue to keep in mind is that the various language editions of Wikipedia have variations in policies and workflows, so translation alone may be insufficient to adapt a video or tutorial from one language edition of Wikipedia to another language edition of Wikipedia. I like the interactive nature of the Wiki Ed tutorial. WMF's Growth Team is developing in-context help, which I think is also a good method for teaching. My guess is that the optimal ways to teach how to edit Wikipedia will be a combination of methods including video, interactive tutorials possibly with quizzes and certifications, in-context help, and individualized help. As an example of how the methods could be blended, I think that in-context help could offer video tutorials of varying lengths to cover certain subjects. Thanks for the comments. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:24 PM Avery Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote: > @Bekriah, that is very exciting. From time to time we have native Arabic > speakers attend our events and have wondered how we could offer them > instruction in Arabic. We would appreciate any further information you have > on pending projects (or by email if it's not public or of general interest > to this list). > > @Pine, it has been suggested to me that your original project might have > been slowed because of the complexity of not only the instruction itself, > but also knowledge about how to make an instructional video. There is > supposed to be an online course on making instructional videos, but it has > not been released yet. In the context of Wikipedia, the process is even > more of a challenge because the YouTube format cannot be easily imported to > Commons. It would also be an advantage to have transcripts available for > those with hearing disabilities or who do not speak the language. There > have been captioning and translation projects but they depend on > transcripts. > > If anyone has not seen the self paced tutorials in the WikiEd training > library, here is the first one, a basic overview. > https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training/students/wikipedia-essentials This > type of tutorial has the advantage of being self paced and geared to visual > learners (which is maybe 80% of an average class). Anyone who doesn't > speak the language can easily use a translation tool to get a basic idea of > the content. > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [hidden email] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe> |
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