[Wikimedia-l] is the German/EU Policy Issues Survey a push-poll from empowerment to enabling?

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[Wikimedia-l] is the German/EU Policy Issues Survey a push-poll from empowerment to enabling?

James Salsman-2
Recently there was a discussion on the Advocacy Advisors list about
the difference between empowering editors as per the Foundation's
mission, and merely enabling them. In trying to understand the
feedback, I took a look at the subjects listed on the Wikimedia EP
Election Questionnaire from the recent German/EU Policy Issues Survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vSrFiYCAN-RPXdikdkkHmT_ZzWPdD5DcDpMye9uAiHM/viewform

There is more information about the survey at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Survey

My concern is that the topics listed, while legitimate concerns all of
which I have been active on over the past year and past several years,
include far fewer categories which can be construed as actually
empowering people to edit, as opposed to merely altering various
technical and social systems which enable them to edit or perform
various editing-related tasks.

I strongly recommend countering this very likely source of survey
outcome bias by asking the community about specific ways to empower
more editors, such as linking to fixmyjob.com from a banner and
supporting the ratification of the Convention on the Rights of the
Child and its protocols without reservation.

Best regards,
James Salsman

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] is the German/EU Policy Issues Survey a push-poll from empowerment to enabling?

Mathias Schindler-2
James,

the survey questions were developed at and after the 2013 Wikimania in
Hong Kong, the survey itself was completed in October 2013.

While comments to completed measures are always appreciated, I suggest
to monitor this list for announcements of future events. These
announcements will happen in advance and will be an invitation to
everyone to submit comments, change requests and alternative
proposals.

Mathias

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:33 AM, James Salsman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Recently there was a discussion on the Advocacy Advisors list about
> the difference between empowering editors as per the Foundation's
> mission, and merely enabling them. In trying to understand the
> feedback, I took a look at the subjects listed on the Wikimedia EP
> Election Questionnaire from the recent German/EU Policy Issues Survey:
>
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vSrFiYCAN-RPXdikdkkHmT_ZzWPdD5DcDpMye9uAiHM/viewform
>
> There is more information about the survey at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy/Survey
>
> My concern is that the topics listed, while legitimate concerns all of
> which I have been active on over the past year and past several years,
> include far fewer categories which can be construed as actually
> empowering people to edit, as opposed to merely altering various
> technical and social systems which enable them to edit or perform
> various editing-related tasks.
>
> I strongly recommend countering this very likely source of survey
> outcome bias by asking the community about specific ways to empower
> more editors, such as linking to fixmyjob.com from a banner and
> supporting the ratification of the Convention on the Rights of the
> Child and its protocols without reservation.
>
> Best regards,
> James Salsman
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] is the German/EU Policy Issues Survey a push-poll from empowerment to enabling?

Federico Leva (Nemo)
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Why are you asking this here and not on the talk page?

James Salsman, 01/12/2013 08:33:
> [...]
> I strongly recommend countering this very likely source of survey
> outcome bias

Petitio principii.

> by asking the community about specific ways to empower
> more editors, such as linking to fixmyjob.com from a banner and
> supporting the ratification of the Convention on the Rights of the
> Child and its protocols without reservation.

This was already covered by the survey, where it asked about human
rights. So in short you disagree with the majority of respondents, who
ranked human rights high but not in top 5, but you say it's the survey's
fault?
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Policy_Issues_Survey_2013_-_final.pdf&page=2>

Nemo

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