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Huib Laurens
Sure :)

http://mirror.fr.wickedway.nl

later on we will duplicate this mirror to a Dutch mirror also :)

Best,
Huib

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Do you have a url that you can reveal so that some of us can have a sneak
> peak? :P
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Huib Laurens <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Ok.
> >
> > I mailed Ariel about this, if all goes will I can have the mirror up and
> > running by Friday.
> >
> > Best,
> > Huib
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia <[hidden email]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Ariel will do that :)
> > >
> > > BTW just dig around inside their puppet configuration repository on
> > Gerrit
> > > and you can know more :)
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Huib Laurens <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok, cool.
> > > >
> > > > And how will I get wikimedia to allow our IP to rsync?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Huib
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia <
> [hidden email]
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Eh, mirrors rsync directly from dataset1001.wikimedia.org, see
> rsync
> > > > > dataset1001.wikimedia.org::
> > > > >
> > > > > However, the system limits the rsyncers to only mirrors, to prevent
> > > > others
> > > > > from rsyncing directly from Wikimedia.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Huib Laurens <[hidden email]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still intressted in running a mirror also, like noted on Meta
> > and
> > > > > send
> > > > > > out earlier per mail also.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm just wondering, why is there no rsync possibility from the
> main
> > > > > server?
> > > > > > Its "strange" when we need to rsync from a mirror.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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> > > > > >
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Re: [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

Mike DuPont
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I have run cron archiving now every 30 minutes,
http://ia700802.us.archive.org/34/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-06/
it is amazing how fast the stuff gets deleted on wikipedia.
what about the proposed deletes are there categories for that?
thanks
mike

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/wikiteam code here
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Ok, I merged the code from wikteam and have a full history dump script
>> that uploads to archive.org,
>> next step is to fix the bucket metadata in the script
>> mike
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Mike  Dupont
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Well, I have now updated the script to include  the xml dump in raw
>>> format. I will have to add more information the achive.org item, at
>>> least a basic readme.
>>> other thing is that the wikipybot does not support the full history it
>>> seems, so that I will have to move over to the wikiteam version and
>>> rework it,
>>> I just spent 2 hours on this so i am pretty happy for the first version.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> This is quite nice, though the item's metadata is too little :)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Mike Dupont <[hidden email]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> first version of the Script is ready , it gets the versions, puts them
>>>>> in a zip and puts that on archive.org
>>>>> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot/blob/master/export_deleted.py
>>>>>
>>>>> here is an example output :
>>>>> http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ia601203.us.archive.org/24/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-05/archive2012-05-28T21:34:02.302183.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> I will cron this, and it should give a start of saving deleted data.
>>>>> Articles will be exported once a day, even if they they were exported
>>>>> yesterday as long as they are in one of the categories.
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mike  Dupont
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> > Thanks! and run that 1 time per day, they dont get deleted that quickly.
>>>>> > mike
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, emijrp <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> >> Create a script that makes a request to Special:Export using this
>>>>> category
>>>>> >> as feed
>>>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> More info
>>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2012/5/21 Mike Dupont <[hidden email]>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Well I whould be happy for items like this :
>>>>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-a7
>>>>> >>> would it be possible to extract them easily?
>>>>> >>> mike
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ariel T. Glenn <[hidden email]>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>> > There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright issues,
>>>>> >>> > personal identifying data, etc.  This makes maintaning the sort of
>>>>> >>> > mirror you propose problematic, although a similar mirror is here:
>>>>> >>> > http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > The dumps contain only data publically available at the time of the
>>>>> run,
>>>>> >>> > without deleted data.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > The articles aren't permanently deleted of course.  The revisions
>>>>> texts
>>>>> >>> > live on in the database, so a query on toolserver, for example,
>>>>> could be
>>>>> >>> > used to get at them, but that would need to be for research purposes.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Ariel
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Στις 17-05-2012, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:30 +0200, ο/η Mike Dupont
>>>>> έγραψε:
>>>>> >>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >>> >> I am thinking about how to collect articles deleted based on the
>>>>> "not
>>>>> >>> >> notable" criteria,
>>>>> >>> >> is there any way we can extract them from the mysql binlogs? how are
>>>>> >>> >> these mirrors working? I would be interested in setting up a mirror
>>>>> of
>>>>> >>> >> deleted data, at least that which is not spam/vandalism based on
>>>>> tags.
>>>>> >>> >> mike
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn <
>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>> >> > We now have three mirror sites, yay!  The full list is linked to
>>>>> from
>>>>> >>> >> > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ and is also available at
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dumps#Current_Mirrors
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Summarizing, we have:
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > C3L (Brazil) with the last 5 good known dumps,
>>>>> >>> >> > Masaryk University (Czech Republic) with the last 5 known good
>>>>> dumps,
>>>>> >>> >> > Your.org (USA) with the complete archive of dumps, and
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > for the latest version of uploaded media, Your.org with
>>>>> >>> >> > http/ftp/rsync
>>>>> >>> >> > access.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Thanks to Carlos, Kevin and Yenya respectively at the above sites
>>>>> for
>>>>> >>> >> > volunteering space, time and effort to make this happen.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > As people noticed earlier, a series of media tarballs per-project
>>>>> >>> >> > (excluding commons) is being generated.  As soon as the first run
>>>>> of
>>>>> >>> >> > these is complete we'll announce its location and start generating
>>>>> >>> >> > them
>>>>> >>> >> > on a semi-regular basis.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > As we've been getting the bugs out of the mirroring setup, it is
>>>>> >>> >> > getting
>>>>> >>> >> > easier to add new locations.  Know anyone interested?  Please let
>>>>> us
>>>>> >>> >> > know; we would love to have them.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Ariel
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> >> > Wikitech-l mailing list
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>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >
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>>>>> >>> Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org
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>>>>> >> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)
>>>>> >> Projects: AVBOT | StatMediaWiki | WikiEvidens | WikiPapers | WikiTeam
>>>>> >> Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
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>>>>> > Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org
>>>>> > Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org
>>>>> Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org
>>>>> Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3
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>>>>
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>>>> protect Wikipedia. Donate now: http://donate.wikimedia.org
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>>> Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org
>>> Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org
>> Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3
>
>
>
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Re: [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

Oren Bochman
Any chance that these archived can be served via bittorent - so that even partial downloaders can become servers - leveraging p2p to reduce overall bandwidth load on the servers and increase download times?


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I have run cron archiving now every 30 minutes, http://ia700802.us.archive.org/34/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-06/
it is amazing how fast the stuff gets deleted on wikipedia.
what about the proposed deletes are there categories for that?
thanks
mike

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont <[hidden email]> wrote:

> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/wikiteam code here
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Ok, I merged the code from wikteam and have a full history dump
>> script that uploads to archive.org, next step is to fix the bucket
>> metadata in the script mike
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Mike  Dupont
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Well, I have now updated the script to include  the xml dump in raw
>>> format. I will have to add more information the achive.org item, at
>>> least a basic readme.
>>> other thing is that the wikipybot does not support the full history
>>> it seems, so that I will have to move over to the wikiteam version
>>> and rework it, I just spent 2 hours on this so i am pretty happy for
>>> the first version.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> This is quite nice, though the item's metadata is too little :)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Mike Dupont
>>>> <[hidden email]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> first version of the Script is ready , it gets the versions, puts
>>>>> them in a zip and puts that on archive.org
>>>>> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot/blob/master/export_de
>>>>> leted.py
>>>>>
>>>>> here is an example output :
>>>>> http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ia601203.us.archive.org/24/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-05/a
>>>>> rchive2012-05-28T21:34:02.302183.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> I will cron this, and it should give a start of saving deleted data.
>>>>> Articles will be exported once a day, even if they they were
>>>>> exported yesterday as long as they are in one of the categories.
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mike  Dupont
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> > Thanks! and run that 1 time per day, they dont get deleted that quickly.
>>>>> > mike
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, emijrp <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> >> Create a script that makes a request to Special:Export using
>>>>> >> this
>>>>> category
>>>>> >> as feed
>>>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_de
>>>>> >> letion
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> More info
>>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2012/5/21 Mike Dupont <[hidden email]>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Well I whould be happy for items like this :
>>>>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-a7
>>>>> >>> would it be possible to extract them easily?
>>>>> >>> mike
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ariel T. Glenn
>>>>> >>> <[hidden email]>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>> > There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright
>>>>> >>> > issues, personal identifying data, etc.  This makes
>>>>> >>> > maintaning the sort of mirror you propose problematic, although a similar mirror is here:
>>>>> >>> > http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > The dumps contain only data publically available at the time
>>>>> >>> > of the
>>>>> run,
>>>>> >>> > without deleted data.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > The articles aren't permanently deleted of course.  The
>>>>> >>> > revisions
>>>>> texts
>>>>> >>> > live on in the database, so a query on toolserver, for
>>>>> >>> > example,
>>>>> could be
>>>>> >>> > used to get at them, but that would need to be for research purposes.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Ariel
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Στις 17-05-2012, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:30 +0200, ο/η Mike
>>>>> >>> > Dupont
>>>>> έγραψε:
>>>>> >>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >>> >> I am thinking about how to collect articles deleted based
>>>>> >>> >> on the
>>>>> "not
>>>>> >>> >> notable" criteria,
>>>>> >>> >> is there any way we can extract them from the mysql
>>>>> >>> >> binlogs? how are these mirrors working? I would be
>>>>> >>> >> interested in setting up a mirror
>>>>> of
>>>>> >>> >> deleted data, at least that which is not spam/vandalism
>>>>> >>> >> based on
>>>>> tags.
>>>>> >>> >> mike
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn <
>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>> >> > We now have three mirror sites, yay!  The full list is
>>>>> >>> >> > linked to
>>>>> from
>>>>> >>> >> > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ and is also available at
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dum
>>>>> ps#Current_Mirrors
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Summarizing, we have:
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > C3L (Brazil) with the last 5 good known dumps, Masaryk
>>>>> >>> >> > University (Czech Republic) with the last 5 known good
>>>>> dumps,
>>>>> >>> >> > Your.org (USA) with the complete archive of dumps, and
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > for the latest version of uploaded media, Your.org with
>>>>> >>> >> > http/ftp/rsync access.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Thanks to Carlos, Kevin and Yenya respectively at the
>>>>> >>> >> > above sites
>>>>> for
>>>>> >>> >> > volunteering space, time and effort to make this happen.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > As people noticed earlier, a series of media tarballs
>>>>> >>> >> > per-project (excluding commons) is being generated.  As
>>>>> >>> >> > soon as the first run
>>>>> of
>>>>> >>> >> > these is complete we'll announce its location and start
>>>>> >>> >> > generating them on a semi-regular basis.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > As we've been getting the bugs out of the mirroring
>>>>> >>> >> > setup, it is getting easier to add new locations.  Know
>>>>> >>> >> > anyone interested?  Please let
>>>>> us
>>>>> >>> >> > know; we would love to have them.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Ariel
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> >> > Wikitech-l mailing list
>>>>> >>> >> > [hidden email]
>>>>> >>> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
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>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> --
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>>>>> >>> Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova
>>>>> >>> http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the
>>>>> >>> world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com
>>>>> >> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)
>>>>> >> Projects: AVBOT | StatMediaWiki | WikiEvidens | WikiPapers |
>>>>> >> WikiTeam Personal website:
>>>>> >> https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> > world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org 
>>>>> Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org 
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Re: [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

Derric Atzrott
I second this idea.  Large archives should always be available using bittorrent.  I would actually suggest posting magnet links for them though instead of .torrent files.  This way you can leverage the acceptable source feature of magnet links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme#Web_links_to_the_file

This way we get the best of both worlds: the constant availability of direct downloads, and the reduction in load that p2p filesharing provides.

Thank you,
Derric Atzrott

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Oren Bochman
Sent: 05 June 2012 08:44
To: 'Wikimedia developers'
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

Any chance that these archived can be served via bittorent - so that even partial downloaders can become servers - leveraging p2p to reduce overall bandwidth load on the servers and increase download times?


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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Dupont
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:28 AM
To: Wikimedia developers; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

I have run cron archiving now every 30 minutes, http://ia700802.us.archive.org/34/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-06/
it is amazing how fast the stuff gets deleted on wikipedia.
what about the proposed deletes are there categories for that?
thanks
mike

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont <[hidden email]> wrote:

> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/wikiteam code here
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Ok, I merged the code from wikteam and have a full history dump
>> script that uploads to archive.org, next step is to fix the bucket
>> metadata in the script mike
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Mike  Dupont
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Well, I have now updated the script to include  the xml dump in raw
>>> format. I will have to add more information the achive.org item, at
>>> least a basic readme.
>>> other thing is that the wikipybot does not support the full history
>>> it seems, so that I will have to move over to the wikiteam version
>>> and rework it, I just spent 2 hours on this so i am pretty happy for
>>> the first version.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> This is quite nice, though the item's metadata is too little :)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Mike Dupont
>>>> <[hidden email]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> first version of the Script is ready , it gets the versions, puts
>>>>> them in a zip and puts that on archive.org
>>>>> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot/blob/master/export_de
>>>>> leted.py
>>>>>
>>>>> here is an example output :
>>>>> http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ia601203.us.archive.org/24/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-05/a
>>>>> rchive2012-05-28T21:34:02.302183.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> I will cron this, and it should give a start of saving deleted data.
>>>>> Articles will be exported once a day, even if they they were
>>>>> exported yesterday as long as they are in one of the categories.
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mike  Dupont
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> > Thanks! and run that 1 time per day, they dont get deleted that quickly.
>>>>> > mike
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, emijrp <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> >> Create a script that makes a request to Special:Export using
>>>>> >> this
>>>>> category
>>>>> >> as feed
>>>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_de
>>>>> >> letion
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> More info
>>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> 2012/5/21 Mike Dupont <[hidden email]>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Well I whould be happy for items like this :
>>>>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-a7
>>>>> >>> would it be possible to extract them easily?
>>>>> >>> mike
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ariel T. Glenn
>>>>> >>> <[hidden email]>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>> > There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright
>>>>> >>> > issues, personal identifying data, etc.  This makes
>>>>> >>> > maintaning the sort of mirror you propose problematic, although a similar mirror is here:
>>>>> >>> > http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > The dumps contain only data publically available at the time
>>>>> >>> > of the
>>>>> run,
>>>>> >>> > without deleted data.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > The articles aren't permanently deleted of course.  The
>>>>> >>> > revisions
>>>>> texts
>>>>> >>> > live on in the database, so a query on toolserver, for
>>>>> >>> > example,
>>>>> could be
>>>>> >>> > used to get at them, but that would need to be for research purposes.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Ariel
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Στις 17-05-2012, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:30 +0200, ο/η Mike
>>>>> >>> > Dupont
>>>>> έγραψε:
>>>>> >>> >> Hi,
>>>>> >>> >> I am thinking about how to collect articles deleted based
>>>>> >>> >> on the
>>>>> "not
>>>>> >>> >> notable" criteria,
>>>>> >>> >> is there any way we can extract them from the mysql
>>>>> >>> >> binlogs? how are these mirrors working? I would be
>>>>> >>> >> interested in setting up a mirror
>>>>> of
>>>>> >>> >> deleted data, at least that which is not spam/vandalism
>>>>> >>> >> based on
>>>>> tags.
>>>>> >>> >> mike
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn <
>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>> >> > We now have three mirror sites, yay!  The full list is
>>>>> >>> >> > linked to
>>>>> from
>>>>> >>> >> > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ and is also available at
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dum
>>>>> ps#Current_Mirrors
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Summarizing, we have:
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > C3L (Brazil) with the last 5 good known dumps, Masaryk
>>>>> >>> >> > University (Czech Republic) with the last 5 known good
>>>>> dumps,
>>>>> >>> >> > Your.org (USA) with the complete archive of dumps, and
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > for the latest version of uploaded media, Your.org with
>>>>> >>> >> > http/ftp/rsync access.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Thanks to Carlos, Kevin and Yenya respectively at the
>>>>> >>> >> > above sites
>>>>> for
>>>>> >>> >> > volunteering space, time and effort to make this happen.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > As people noticed earlier, a series of media tarballs
>>>>> >>> >> > per-project (excluding commons) is being generated.  As
>>>>> >>> >> > soon as the first run
>>>>> of
>>>>> >>> >> > these is complete we'll announce its location and start
>>>>> >>> >> > generating them on a semi-regular basis.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > As we've been getting the bugs out of the mirroring
>>>>> >>> >> > setup, it is getting easier to add new locations.  Know
>>>>> >>> >> > anyone interested?  Please let
>>>>> us
>>>>> >>> >> > know; we would love to have them.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Ariel
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> >> > Wikitech-l mailing list
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>>>>> >>> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
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>>>>> >>> http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the
>>>>> >>> world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep
>>>>> >>> https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3
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>>>>> >> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)
>>>>> >> Projects: AVBOT | StatMediaWiki | WikiEvidens | WikiPapers |
>>>>> >> WikiTeam Personal website:
>>>>> >> https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> > Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova
>>>>> > http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the
>>>>> > world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep
>>>>> > https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org 
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>>
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>
>
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Re: [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

Ariel Glenn WMF
This is a place where volunteers can step in and make it happen without
the need for Wikimedia's infrastructure.  (This means I can concentrate
on my already very full plate of things too.)

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents

Have at!

Ariel

Στις 05-06-2012, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 08:57 -0400, ο/η Derric Atzrott
έγραψε:

> I second this idea.  Large archives should always be available using bittorrent.  I would actually suggest posting magnet links for them though instead of .torrent files.  This way you can leverage the acceptable source feature of magnet links.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme#Web_links_to_the_file
>
> This way we get the best of both worlds: the constant availability of direct downloads, and the reduction in load that p2p filesharing provides.
>
> Thank you,
> Derric Atzrott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Oren Bochman
> Sent: 05 June 2012 08:44
> To: 'Wikimedia developers'
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update
>
> Any chance that these archived can be served via bittorent - so that even partial downloaders can become servers - leveraging p2p to reduce overall bandwidth load on the servers and increase download times?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Dupont
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:28 AM
> To: Wikimedia developers; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update
>
> I have run cron archiving now every 30 minutes, http://ia700802.us.archive.org/34/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-06/
> it is amazing how fast the stuff gets deleted on wikipedia.
> what about the proposed deletes are there categories for that?
> thanks
> mike
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/wikiteam code here
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Ok, I merged the code from wikteam and have a full history dump
> >> script that uploads to archive.org, next step is to fix the bucket
> >> metadata in the script mike
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Mike  Dupont
> >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>> Well, I have now updated the script to include  the xml dump in raw
> >>> format. I will have to add more information the achive.org item, at
> >>> least a basic readme.
> >>> other thing is that the wikipybot does not support the full history
> >>> it seems, so that I will have to move over to the wikiteam version
> >>> and rework it, I just spent 2 hours on this so i am pretty happy for
> >>> the first version.
> >>>
> >>> mike
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>> This is quite nice, though the item's metadata is too little :)
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Mike Dupont
> >>>> <[hidden email]
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> first version of the Script is ready , it gets the versions, puts
> >>>>> them in a zip and puts that on archive.org
> >>>>> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot/blob/master/export_de
> >>>>> leted.py
> >>>>>
> >>>>> here is an example output :
> >>>>> http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://ia601203.us.archive.org/24/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-05/a
> >>>>> rchive2012-05-28T21:34:02.302183.zip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will cron this, and it should give a start of saving deleted data.
> >>>>> Articles will be exported once a day, even if they they were
> >>>>> exported yesterday as long as they are in one of the categories.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mike  Dupont
> >>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>> > Thanks! and run that 1 time per day, they dont get deleted that quickly.
> >>>>> > mike
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, emijrp <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>> >> Create a script that makes a request to Special:Export using
> >>>>> >> this
> >>>>> category
> >>>>> >> as feed
> >>>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_de
> >>>>> >> letion
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> More info
> >>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> 2012/5/21 Mike Dupont <[hidden email]>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Well I whould be happy for items like this :
> >>>>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-a7
> >>>>> >>> would it be possible to extract them easily?
> >>>>> >>> mike
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ariel T. Glenn
> >>>>> >>> <[hidden email]>
> >>>>> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>> > There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright
> >>>>> >>> > issues, personal identifying data, etc.  This makes
> >>>>> >>> > maintaning the sort of mirror you propose problematic, although a similar mirror is here:
> >>>>> >>> > http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
> >>>>> >>> >
> >>>>> >>> > The dumps contain only data publically available at the time
> >>>>> >>> > of the
> >>>>> run,
> >>>>> >>> > without deleted data.
> >>>>> >>> >
> >>>>> >>> > The articles aren't permanently deleted of course.  The
> >>>>> >>> > revisions
> >>>>> texts
> >>>>> >>> > live on in the database, so a query on toolserver, for
> >>>>> >>> > example,
> >>>>> could be
> >>>>> >>> > used to get at them, but that would need to be for research purposes.
> >>>>> >>> >
> >>>>> >>> > Ariel
> >>>>> >>> >
> >>>>> >>> > Στις 17-05-2012, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:30 +0200, ο/η Mike
> >>>>> >>> > Dupont
> >>>>> έγραψε:
> >>>>> >>> >> Hi,
> >>>>> >>> >> I am thinking about how to collect articles deleted based
> >>>>> >>> >> on the
> >>>>> "not
> >>>>> >>> >> notable" criteria,
> >>>>> >>> >> is there any way we can extract them from the mysql
> >>>>> >>> >> binlogs? how are these mirrors working? I would be
> >>>>> >>> >> interested in setting up a mirror
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> >>> >> deleted data, at least that which is not spam/vandalism
> >>>>> >>> >> based on
> >>>>> tags.
> >>>>> >>> >> mike
> >>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>> >>> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn <
> >>>>> [hidden email]>
> >>>>> >>> >> wrote:
> >>>>> >>> >> > We now have three mirror sites, yay!  The full list is
> >>>>> >>> >> > linked to
> >>>>> from
> >>>>> >>> >> > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ and is also available at
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dum
> >>>>> ps#Current_Mirrors
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> > Summarizing, we have:
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> > C3L (Brazil) with the last 5 good known dumps, Masaryk
> >>>>> >>> >> > University (Czech Republic) with the last 5 known good
> >>>>> dumps,
> >>>>> >>> >> > Your.org (USA) with the complete archive of dumps, and
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> > for the latest version of uploaded media, Your.org with
> >>>>> >>> >> > http/ftp/rsync access.
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> > Thanks to Carlos, Kevin and Yenya respectively at the
> >>>>> >>> >> > above sites
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> >>> >> > volunteering space, time and effort to make this happen.
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> > As people noticed earlier, a series of media tarballs
> >>>>> >>> >> > per-project (excluding commons) is being generated.  As
> >>>>> >>> >> > soon as the first run
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> >>> >> > these is complete we'll announce its location and start
> >>>>> >>> >> > generating them on a semi-regular basis.
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> > As we've been getting the bugs out of the mirroring
> >>>>> >>> >> > setup, it is getting easier to add new locations.  Know
> >>>>> >>> >> > anyone interested?  Please let
> >>>>> us
> >>>>> >>> >> > know; we would love to have them.
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> > Ariel
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________
> >>>>> >>> >> > Wikitech-l mailing list
> >>>>> >>> >> > [hidden email]
> >>>>> >>> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
> >>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>> >>> >
> >>>>> >>> >
> >>>>> >>> >
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> >>>>> >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> --
> >>>>> >>> James Michael DuPont
> >>>>> >>> Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova
> >>>>> >>> http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the
> >>>>> >>> world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep
> >>>>> >>> https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>> >>> [hidden email]
> >>>>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> --
> >>>>> >> Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com
> >>>>> >> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)
> >>>>> >> Projects: AVBOT | StatMediaWiki | WikiEvidens | WikiPapers |
> >>>>> >> WikiTeam Personal website:
> >>>>> >> https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
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> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
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> >>>>> > --
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> >>>>> > Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova
> >>>>> > http://flossk.org Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the
> >>>>> > world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep
> >>>>> > https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org 
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Hydriz
> >>>>
> >>>> We've created the greatest collection of shared knowledge in
> >>>> history. Help protect Wikipedia. Donate now:
> >>>> http://donate.wikimedia.org
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> >>
> >>
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Re: [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

Oren Bochman
Dear Ariel,

Consider that people who would need to use Torrent most of all cannot host
a mirrors - this is a situation of the little guy being asked to do the
heavy lifting.

It would be saving WMF significant resources, - it would be more efficient
than Rsync. Doing this outside the the WMF infrastructure does not make
sense (authenticity, automation) and is the reason why use of torrents has
failed traditionally. If the WMF does this - it should be possible for
users to leverage all the mirrors simultaneously - which is why torrents
are the preferred form of transport for Linux distribution.

Installing a torrent server should not significantly impact workload.
The main problems, as I see it, is to write a maintenance script to create
the magnet link/.torernt files once the dumps are generated and to publish
them on the dump servers.

With your blessing - I would try to help with it in the context of say a
labs, if it would be integrated into the dump release process.

Thanks for the great job with the dumps!

Oren Bochman

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Ariel T. Glenn <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This is a place where volunteers can step in and make it happen without
> the need for Wikimedia's infrastructure.  (This means I can concentrate
> on my already very full plate of things too.)
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents
>
> Have at!
>
> Ariel
>
> Στις 05-06-2012, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 08:57 -0400, ο/η Derric Atzrott
> έγραψε:
> > I second this idea.  Large archives should always be available using
> bittorrent.  I would actually suggest posting magnet links for them though
> instead of .torrent files.  This way you can leverage the acceptable source
> feature of magnet links.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme#Web_links_to_the_file
> >
> > This way we get the best of both worlds: the constant availability of
> direct downloads, and the reduction in load that p2p filesharing provides.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Derric Atzrott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Oren Bochman
> > Sent: 05 June 2012 08:44
> > To: 'Wikimedia developers'
> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update
> >
> > Any chance that these archived can be served via bittorent - so that
> even partial downloaders can become servers - leveraging p2p to reduce
> overall bandwidth load on the servers and increase download times?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Dupont
> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:28 AM
> > To: Wikimedia developers; [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update
> >
> > I have run cron archiving now every 30 minutes,
> http://ia700802.us.archive.org/34/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-06/
> > it is amazing how fast the stuff gets deleted on wikipedia.
> > what about the proposed deletes are there categories for that?
> > thanks
> > mike
> >
> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/wikiteam code here
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Mike  Dupont
> > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> Ok, I merged the code from wikteam and have a full history dump
> > >> script that uploads to archive.org, next step is to fix the bucket
> > >> metadata in the script mike
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Mike  Dupont
> > >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>> Well, I have now updated the script to include  the xml dump in raw
> > >>> format. I will have to add more information the achive.org item, at
> > >>> least a basic readme.
> > >>> other thing is that the wikipybot does not support the full history
> > >>> it seems, so that I will have to move over to the wikiteam version
> > >>> and rework it, I just spent 2 hours on this so i am pretty happy for
> > >>> the first version.
> > >>>
> > >>> mike
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Hydriz Wikipedia <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>>> This is quite nice, though the item's metadata is too little :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Mike Dupont
> > >>>> <[hidden email]
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> first version of the Script is ready , it gets the versions, puts
> > >>>>> them in a zip and puts that on archive.org
> > >>>>> https://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/pywikipediabot/blob/master/export_de
> > >>>>> leted.py
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> here is an example output :
> > >>>>> http://archive.org/details/wikipedia-delete-2012-05
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://ia601203.us.archive.org/24/items/wikipedia-delete-2012-05/a
> > >>>>> rchive2012-05-28T21:34:02.302183.zip
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I will cron this, and it should give a start of saving deleted
> data.
> > >>>>> Articles will be exported once a day, even if they they were
> > >>>>> exported yesterday as long as they are in one of the categories.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> mike
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mike  Dupont
> > >>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>>>> > Thanks! and run that 1 time per day, they dont get deleted that
> quickly.
> > >>>>> > mike
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:11 PM, emijrp <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > >>>>> >> Create a script that makes a request to Special:Export using
> > >>>>> >> this
> > >>>>> category
> > >>>>> >> as feed
> > >>>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_de
> > >>>>> >> letion
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >> More info
> > >>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parameters_to_Special:Export
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >> 2012/5/21 Mike Dupont <[hidden email]>
> > >>>>> >>>
> > >>>>> >>> Well I whould be happy for items like this :
> > >>>>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Db-a7
> > >>>>> >>> would it be possible to extract them easily?
> > >>>>> >>> mike
> > >>>>> >>>
> > >>>>> >>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Ariel T. Glenn
> > >>>>> >>> <[hidden email]>
> > >>>>> >>> wrote:
> > >>>>> >>> > There's a few other reasons articles get deleted: copyright
> > >>>>> >>> > issues, personal identifying data, etc.  This makes
> > >>>>> >>> > maintaning the sort of mirror you propose problematic,
> although a similar mirror is here:
> > >>>>> >>> > http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
> > >>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>> >>> > The dumps contain only data publically available at the time
> > >>>>> >>> > of the
> > >>>>> run,
> > >>>>> >>> > without deleted data.
> > >>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>> >>> > The articles aren't permanently deleted of course.  The
> > >>>>> >>> > revisions
> > >>>>> texts
> > >>>>> >>> > live on in the database, so a query on toolserver, for
> > >>>>> >>> > example,
> > >>>>> could be
> > >>>>> >>> > used to get at them, but that would need to be for research
> purposes.
> > >>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>> >>> > Ariel
> > >>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>> >>> > Στις 17-05-2012, ημέρα Πεμ, και ώρα 13:30 +0200, ο/η Mike
> > >>>>> >>> > Dupont
> > >>>>> έγραψε:
> > >>>>> >>> >> Hi,
> > >>>>> >>> >> I am thinking about how to collect articles deleted based
> > >>>>> >>> >> on the
> > >>>>> "not
> > >>>>> >>> >> notable" criteria,
> > >>>>> >>> >> is there any way we can extract them from the mysql
> > >>>>> >>> >> binlogs? how are these mirrors working? I would be
> > >>>>> >>> >> interested in setting up a mirror
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> >>> >> deleted data, at least that which is not spam/vandalism
> > >>>>> >>> >> based on
> > >>>>> tags.
> > >>>>> >>> >> mike
> > >>>>> >>> >>
> > >>>>> >>> >> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ariel T. Glenn <
> > >>>>> [hidden email]>
> > >>>>> >>> >> wrote:
> > >>>>> >>> >> > We now have three mirror sites, yay!  The full list is
> > >>>>> >>> >> > linked to
> > >>>>> from
> > >>>>> >>> >> > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/ and is also available at
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_Wikimedia_project_XML_dum
> > >>>>> ps#Current_Mirrors
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> > Summarizing, we have:
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> > C3L (Brazil) with the last 5 good known dumps, Masaryk
> > >>>>> >>> >> > University (Czech Republic) with the last 5 known good
> > >>>>> dumps,
> > >>>>> >>> >> > Your.org (USA) with the complete archive of dumps, and
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> > for the latest version of uploaded media, Your.org with
> > >>>>> >>> >> > http/ftp/rsync access.
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> > Thanks to Carlos, Kevin and Yenya respectively at the
> > >>>>> >>> >> > above sites
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>> >>> >> > volunteering space, time and effort to make this happen.
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> > As people noticed earlier, a series of media tarballs
> > >>>>> >>> >> > per-project (excluding commons) is being generated.  As
> > >>>>> >>> >> > soon as the first run
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> >>> >> > these is complete we'll announce its location and start
> > >>>>> >>> >> > generating them on a semi-regular basis.
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> > As we've been getting the bugs out of the mirroring
> > >>>>> >>> >> > setup, it is getting easier to add new locations.  Know
> > >>>>> >>> >> > anyone interested?  Please let
> > >>>>> us
> > >>>>> >>> >> > know; we would love to have them.
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> > Ariel
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
> > >>>>> >>> >> >
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> > >>>>> >> Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com
> > >>>>> >> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain)
> > >>>>> >> Projects: AVBOT | StatMediaWiki | WikiEvidens | WikiPapers |
> > >>>>> >> WikiTeam Personal website:
> > >>>>> >> https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/
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> > >>>> Hydriz
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Re: [Xmldatadumps-l] XML dumps/Media mirrors update

Strainu
2012/6/6 Oren Bochman <[hidden email]>:

> Dear Ariel,
>
> Consider that people who would need to use Torrent most of all cannot host
> a mirrors - this is a situation of the little guy being asked to do the
> heavy lifting.
>
> It would be saving WMF significant resources, - it would be more efficient
> than Rsync. Doing this outside the the WMF infrastructure does not make
> sense (authenticity, automation) and is the reason why use of torrents has
> failed traditionally. If the WMF does this - it should be possible for
> users to leverage all the mirrors simultaneously - which is why torrents
> are the preferred form of transport for Linux distribution.
>
> Installing a torrent server should not significantly impact workload.
> The main problems, as I see it, is to write a maintenance script to create
> the magnet link/.torernt files once the dumps are generated and to publish
> them on the dump servers.
>
> With your blessing - I would try to help with it in the context of say a
> labs, if it would be integrated into the dump release process.


Actually, the link that Ariel provided contains links to Burnbit, who
claim [1] to be using webseeds (i.e. the Wikimedia servers) to provide
the torrents with data. So in theory it should be enough to have a
script generate a burnbit torrent (or any torrent with webseeds, for
that matter) for each dump, which should be well within the reach of
an interested user. As to the actual hosting of files, the users will
only host the files they choose to seed (presumably, the ones they
work with) and nothing more.

Strainu

[1] http://burnbit.com/faq#httpseeds

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