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Christian Wagner
Hello everyone!

I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an inline query [0].

|sort=
seems not no work

[[Category:Name|Sort]]
does not work either

How can I sort the results in the category format?


Thank you in advance!

Christian Wagner



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Re: category format sorting results

kghbln
Heiya Christian,

the sorting will be done according to the category collation set with
the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at [1].

Cheers Karsten

[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
[1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format

Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an inline query
> [0].
>
> |sort=
> seems not no work
>
> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
> does not work either
>
> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> Christian Wagner
>
>
>
> [0]
> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>
>
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Re: category format sorting results

Christian Wagner
Hi Karsten,

thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration parameter and
the corresponding notes.

For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to choose to
get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?


Cheers


[0] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
[1] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
[2]
https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results




Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:

> Heiya Christian,
>
> the sorting will be done according to the category collation set with
> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at [1].
>
> Cheers Karsten
>
> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>
> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an inline query
>> [0].
>>
>> |sort=
>> seems not no work
>>
>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>> does not work either
>>
>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>> Christian Wagner
>>
>>
>>
>> [0]
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>
>>
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Hi Christian,

what about just adding MediaWiki's DEFAULTSORTKEY [0].

Cheers Karsten

[0]
https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Das_Glasperlenspiel&type=revision&diff=6707&oldid=6700

Am 20.06.2017 um 08:19 schrieb Christian Wagner:

> Hi Karsten,
>
> thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration parameter
> and the corresponding notes.
>
> For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
> Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
> Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to choose to
> get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> [0] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
> [1] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
> [2]
> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>
>
>
>
> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>> Heiya Christian,
>>
>> the sorting will be done according to the category collation set with
>> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at [1].
>>
>> Cheers Karsten
>>
>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
>> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>>
>> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>> Hello everyone!
>>>
>>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an inline query
>>> [0].
>>>
>>> |sort=
>>> seems not no work
>>>
>>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>>> does not work either
>>>
>>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>
>>> Christian Wagner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [0]
>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: category format sorting results

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Hi Karsten,

thank you very much for this elegant yet simple solution.

I elaborated the sort of the category format a bit further and found a
counter-intuitive order. In [0] "A A BB" is listed below "B B BB".
Can that be correct?


Cheers


[0]
https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results



Am 20.06.2017 um 08:55 schrieb [[kgh]]:

> Hi Christian,
>
> what about just adding MediaWiki's DEFAULTSORTKEY [0].
>
> Cheers Karsten
>
> [0]
> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Das_Glasperlenspiel&type=revision&diff=6707&oldid=6700
>
> Am 20.06.2017 um 08:19 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>> Hi Karsten,
>>
>> thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration parameter
>> and the corresponding notes.
>>
>> For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
>> Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
>> Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to choose to
>> get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> [0] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
>> [1] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
>> [2]
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>> Heiya Christian,
>>>
>>> the sorting will be done according to the category collation set with
>>> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at [1].
>>>
>>> Cheers Karsten
>>>
>>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
>>> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>>>
>>> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an inline query
>>>> [0].
>>>>
>>>> |sort=
>>>> seems not no work
>>>>
>>>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>>>> does not work either
>>>>
>>>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Christian Wagner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [0]
>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Heiya Christian,

do not make me ready. :D

To me it seems that the native sorting using just DEFAULTSORT and the
sorting via a set property at the same time causes the issue so I'd
recommend use either one or the other method for the category format.

Cheers

Karsten


Am 20.06.2017 um 16:21 schrieb Christian Wagner:

> Hi Karsten,
>
> thank you very much for this elegant yet simple solution.
>
> I elaborated the sort of the category format a bit further and found a
> counter-intuitive order. In [0] "A A BB" is listed below "B B BB".
> Can that be correct?
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> [0]
> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>
>
>
> Am 20.06.2017 um 08:55 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> what about just adding MediaWiki's DEFAULTSORTKEY [0].
>>
>> Cheers Karsten
>>
>> [0]
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Das_Glasperlenspiel&type=revision&diff=6707&oldid=6700
>>
>>
>> Am 20.06.2017 um 08:19 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>> Hi Karsten,
>>>
>>> thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration parameter
>>> and the corresponding notes.
>>>
>>> For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
>>> Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
>>> Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to choose to
>>> get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> [0] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
>>> [1] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
>>> [2]
>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>>> Heiya Christian,
>>>>
>>>> the sorting will be done according to the category collation set with
>>>> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at [1].
>>>>
>>>> Cheers Karsten
>>>>
>>>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
>>>> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>>>>
>>>> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an inline
>>>>> query
>>>>> [0].
>>>>>
>>>>> |sort=
>>>>> seems not no work
>>>>>
>>>>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>>>>> does not work either
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian Wagner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [0]
>>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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In any case, if there really is a bug, it would be great if an issue could be raised on Github.
Cheers
Stephan
-------- Original Message --------
On Jun 20, 2017, 16:21, Christian Wagner wrote:
Hi Karsten,

thank you very much for this elegant yet simple solution.

I elaborated the sort of the category format a bit further and found a
counter-intuitive order. In [0] "A A BB" is listed below "B B BB".
Can that be correct?

Cheers

[0]
https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results

Am 20.06.2017 um 08:55 schrieb [[kgh]]:

> Hi Christian,
>
> what about just adding MediaWiki's DEFAULTSORTKEY [0].
>
> Cheers Karsten
>
> [0]
> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Das_Glasperlenspiel&type=revision&diff=6707&oldid=6700
>
> Am 20.06.2017 um 08:19 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>> Hi Karsten,
>>
>> thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration parameter
>> and the corresponding notes.
>>
>> For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
>> Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
>> Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to choose to
>> get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> [0] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
>> [1] https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
>> [2]
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>> Heiya Christian,
>>>
>>> the sorting will be done according to the category collation set with
>>> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at [1].
>>>
>>> Cheers Karsten
>>>
>>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
>>> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>>>
>>> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an inline query
>>>> [0].
>>>>
>>>> |sort=
>>>> seems not no work
>>>>
>>>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>>>> does not work either
>>>>
>>>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Christian Wagner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [0]
>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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I cannot tell for sure whether this is a bug or a misconfiguration. The
example [0] with format=ul is still sorted "wrong" and I don't
understand why. Is this a bug, am I missing a configuration parameter or
am I using the sort parameter incorrect?

Cheers

[0]
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Am 22.06.2017 um 08:40 schrieb Stephan Gambke:

> In any case, if there really is a bug, it would be great if an issue
> could be raised on Github.
> Cheers
> Stephan
> -------- Original Message --------
> On Jun 20, 2017, 16:21, Christian Wagner <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>     Hi Karsten,
>
>     thank you very much for this elegant yet simple solution.
>
>     I elaborated the sort of the category format a bit further and
>     found a
>     counter-intuitive order. In [0] "A A BB" is listed below "B B BB".
>     Can that be correct?
>
>
>     Cheers
>
>
>     [0]
>     https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>
>
>
>
>     Am 20.06.2017 um 08:55 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>     > Hi Christian,
>     >
>     > what about just adding MediaWiki's DEFAULTSORTKEY [0].
>     >
>     > Cheers Karsten
>     >
>     > [0]
>     >
>     https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Das_Glasperlenspiel&type=revision&diff=6707&oldid=6700
>
>     >
>     > Am 20.06.2017 um 08:19 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>     >> Hi Karsten,
>     >>
>     >> thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration
>     parameter
>     >> and the corresponding notes.
>     >>
>     >> For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
>     >> Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
>     >> Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to
>     choose to
>     >> get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Cheers
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> [0]
>     https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
>     >> [1]
>     https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
>     >> [2]
>     >>
>     https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>     >>> Heiya Christian,
>     >>>
>     >>> the sorting will be done according to the category collation
>     set with
>     >>> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at
>     [1].
>     >>>
>     >>> Cheers Karsten
>     >>>
>     >>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
>     >>> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>     >>>
>     >>> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>     >>>> Hello everyone!
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an
>     inline query
>     >>>> [0].
>     >>>>
>     >>>> |sort=
>     >>>> seems not no work
>     >>>>
>     >>>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>     >>>> does not work either
>     >>>>
>     >>>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Thank you in advance!
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Christian Wagner
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> [0]
>     >>>>
>     https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
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Re: category format sorting results

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Heiya Christian,

same here. After removing the mix between sorting by a property value
and by the order imposed by DEFAULTSORT the expected result shows. So if
you consistently use the DEFAULTSORT you should be fine.

Cheers Karsten


Am 22.06.2017 um 15:05 schrieb Christian Wagner:

> I cannot tell for sure whether this is a bug or a misconfiguration.
> The example [0] with format=ul is still sorted "wrong" and I don't
> understand why. Is this a bug, am I missing a configuration parameter
> or am I using the sort parameter incorrect?
>
> Cheers
>
> [0]
> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results#Test_sortkey_UL
>
>
>
> Am 22.06.2017 um 08:40 schrieb Stephan Gambke:
>> In any case, if there really is a bug, it would be great if an issue
>> could be raised on Github.
>> Cheers
>> Stephan
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On Jun 20, 2017, 16:21, Christian Wagner <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Hi Karsten,
>>
>>     thank you very much for this elegant yet simple solution.
>>
>>     I elaborated the sort of the category format a bit further and
>>     found a
>>     counter-intuitive order. In [0] "A A BB" is listed below "B B BB".
>>     Can that be correct?
>>
>>
>>     Cheers
>>
>>
>>     [0]
>>    
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Am 20.06.2017 um 08:55 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>     > Hi Christian,
>>     >
>>     > what about just adding MediaWiki's DEFAULTSORTKEY [0].
>>     >
>>     > Cheers Karsten
>>     >
>>     > [0]
>>     >
>>    
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Das_Glasperlenspiel&type=revision&diff=6707&oldid=6700
>>
>>     >
>>     > Am 20.06.2017 um 08:19 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>     >> Hi Karsten,
>>     >>
>>     >> thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration
>>     parameter
>>     >> and the corresponding notes.
>>     >>
>>     >> For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
>>     >> Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
>>     >> Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to
>>     choose to
>>     >> get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> Cheers
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> [0]
>>     https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
>>     >> [1]
>>     https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
>>     >> [2]
>>     >>
>>    
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>     >>> Heiya Christian,
>>     >>>
>>     >>> the sorting will be done according to the category collation
>>     set with
>>     >>> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at
>>     [1].
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Cheers Karsten
>>     >>>
>>     >>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
>>     >>> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>     >>>> Hello everyone!
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an
>>     inline query
>>     >>>> [0].
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> |sort=
>>     >>>> seems not no work
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>>     >>>> does not work either
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Thank you in advance!
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Christian Wagner
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> [0]
>>     >>>>
>>    
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>
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Hi Karsten,

thank you for making that clear.
So, the answer for Stephan is: No, it's not a bug. I should not use
{{DEFAULTSORT:/sortkey/}} and |sort=/sortkey/ at the same time.

Cheers Christian



Am 22.06.2017 um 15:23 schrieb [[kgh]]:

> Heiya Christian,
>
> same here. After removing the mix between sorting by a property value
> and by the order imposed by DEFAULTSORT the expected result shows. So if
> you consistently use the DEFAULTSORT you should be fine.
>
> Cheers Karsten
>
>
> Am 22.06.2017 um 15:05 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>> I cannot tell for sure whether this is a bug or a misconfiguration.
>> The example [0] with format=ul is still sorted "wrong" and I don't
>> understand why. Is this a bug, am I missing a configuration parameter
>> or am I using the sort parameter incorrect?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> [0]
>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results#Test_sortkey_UL
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 22.06.2017 um 08:40 schrieb Stephan Gambke:
>>> In any case, if there really is a bug, it would be great if an issue
>>> could be raised on Github.
>>> Cheers
>>> Stephan
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> On Jun 20, 2017, 16:21, Christian Wagner <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      Hi Karsten,
>>>
>>>      thank you very much for this elegant yet simple solution.
>>>
>>>      I elaborated the sort of the category format a bit further and
>>>      found a
>>>      counter-intuitive order. In [0] "A A BB" is listed below "B B BB".
>>>      Can that be correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>      Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>      [0]
>>>    
>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      Am 20.06.2017 um 08:55 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>>      > Hi Christian,
>>>      >
>>>      > what about just adding MediaWiki's DEFAULTSORTKEY [0].
>>>      >
>>>      > Cheers Karsten
>>>      >
>>>      > [0]
>>>      >
>>>    
>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Das_Glasperlenspiel&type=revision&diff=6707&oldid=6700
>>>
>>>      >
>>>      > Am 20.06.2017 um 08:19 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>>      >> Hi Karsten,
>>>      >>
>>>      >> thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration
>>>      parameter
>>>      >> and the corresponding notes.
>>>      >>
>>>      >> For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
>>>      >> Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
>>>      >> Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to
>>>      choose to
>>>      >> get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?
>>>      >>
>>>      >>
>>>      >> Cheers
>>>      >>
>>>      >>
>>>      >> [0]
>>>      https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
>>>      >> [1]
>>>      https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
>>>      >> [2]
>>>      >>
>>>    
>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>
>>>      >>
>>>      >>
>>>      >>
>>>      >>
>>>      >> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>>      >>> Heiya Christian,
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> the sorting will be done according to the category collation
>>>      set with
>>>      >>> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at
>>>      [1].
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> Cheers Karsten
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
>>>      >>> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>>      >>>> Hello everyone!
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an
>>>      inline query
>>>      >>>> [0].
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>> |sort=
>>>      >>>> seems not no work
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>>>      >>>> does not work either
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>> Christian Wagner
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>> [0]
>>>      >>>>
>>>    
>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>
>>>      >>>>
>>>      >>>>
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Well, to me this definitely sounds like a bug. Using both at the same time should not lead to undefined behavior.
If you ask me the sortkey parameter should take precedence over the DEFAULTSORT.

Cheers
Stephan

-------- Original Message --------
On Jun 22, 2017, 15:32, Christian Wagner wrote:

> Hi Karsten,
>
> thank you for making that clear.
> So, the answer for Stephan is: No, it's not a bug. I should not use
> {{DEFAULTSORT:/sortkey/}} and |sort=/sortkey/ at the same time.
>
> Cheers Christian
>
> Am 22.06.2017 um 15:23 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>> Heiya Christian,
>>
>> same here. After removing the mix between sorting by a property value
>> and by the order imposed by DEFAULTSORT the expected result shows. So if
>> you consistently use the DEFAULTSORT you should be fine.
>>
>> Cheers Karsten
>>
>>
>> Am 22.06.2017 um 15:05 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>> I cannot tell for sure whether this is a bug or a misconfiguration.
>>> The example [0] with format=ul is still sorted "wrong" and I don't
>>> understand why. Is this a bug, am I missing a configuration parameter
>>> or am I using the sort parameter incorrect?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> [0]
>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results#Test_sortkey_UL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 22.06.2017 um 08:40 schrieb Stephan Gambke:
>>>> In any case, if there really is a bug, it would be great if an issue
>>>> could be raised on Github.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Stephan
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> On Jun 20, 2017, 16:21, Christian Wagner <
>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Karsten,
>>>>
>>>> thank you very much for this elegant yet simple solution.
>>>>
>>>> I elaborated the sort of the category format a bit further and
>>>> found a
>>>> counter-intuitive order. In [0] "A A BB" is listed below "B B BB".
>>>> Can that be correct?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [0]
>>>>
>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 20.06.2017 um 08:55 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>>> > Hi Christian,
>>>> >
>>>> > what about just adding MediaWiki's DEFAULTSORTKEY [0].
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers Karsten
>>>> >
>>>> > [0]
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Das_Glasperlenspiel&type=revision&diff=6707&oldid=6700
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Am 20.06.2017 um 08:19 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>>> >> Hi Karsten,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> thank you for pointing me to the responsible configuration
>>>> parameter
>>>> >> and the corresponding notes.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For me it looks like a bit over the top. I just want to sort "Das
>>>> >> Glasperlenspiel" [0] according to Property:Has sortkey [1].
>>>> >> Can you help me to better understand what setting I need to
>>>> choose to
>>>> >> get [0] sorted under "G" in [2]?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cheers
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [0]
>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Das_Glasperlenspiel
>>>> >> [1]
>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Attribut:Has_sortkey
>>>> >> [2]
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Am 19.06.2017 um 20:47 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>>> >>> Heiya Christian,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> the sorting will be done according to the category collation
>>>> set with
>>>> >>> the respective configuration parameter: [0]. See the notes at
>>>> [1].
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Cheers Karsten
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> [0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCategoryCollation
>>>> >>> [1] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Category_format
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Am 19.06.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Christian Wagner:
>>>> >>>> Hello everyone!
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I'm trying to sort the results in a category format of an
>>>> inline query
>>>> >>>> [0].
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> |sort=
>>>> >>>> seems not no work
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> [[Category:Name|Sort]]
>>>> >>>> does not work either
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> How can I sort the results in the category format?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Christian Wagner
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> [0]
>>>> >>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Category_format_sorting_results
>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
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