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Amir E. Aharoni
Are there statistics about users' preferences on Wikimedia sites?

For example, a statistic that would say things like how many users use every
skin and how many users have "Show preview before edit box" disabled.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the defaults for new users never seem to change
(except the Vector skin recently) and maybe we could learn something from
these stats.

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Re: preferences statistics

Antoine Musso-3
On 01/11/10 08:47, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> Are there statistics about users' preferences on Wikimedia sites?
>
> For example, a statistic that would say things like how many users use every
> skin and how many users have "Show preview before edit box" disabled.
>
> Correct me if i'm wrong, but the defaults for new users never seem to change
> (except the Vector skin recently) and maybe we could learn something from
> these stats.

Hello,

I have wrote one a few years ago which might suit your needs. It is in
the maintenance directory and would need a shell access to run:

    maintenance/userOptions.php --usage

On my development Wiki the output is:

   Usage for <ccmeonemails> (default: '0'):
    1 user(s): '1'

   Done.

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Re: preferences statistics

Amir E. Aharoni
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 14:26, Ashar Voultoiz <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 01/11/10 08:47, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> > Are there statistics about users' preferences on Wikimedia sites?
> >
> > For example, a statistic that would say things like how many users use every
> > skin and how many users have "Show preview before edit box" disabled.
>
> I have wrote one a few years ago which might suit your needs. It is in
> the maintenance directory and would need a shell access to run:
>
>    maintenance/userOptions.php --usage

Thank you. Can someone run it on some of Wikimedia's wikis to see how
many users actually like the current defaults and how many users
change them? It would be also nice to do it for the recently active
users, as much as it is possible.

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 I want to live in peace." - T. Moore

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Re: preferences statistics

Gergő Tisza
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Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@...> writes:

> Are there statistics about users' preferences on Wikimedia sites?
>
> For example, a statistic that would say things like how many users use every
> skin and how many users have "Show preview before edit box" disabled.
>
> Correct me if i'm wrong, but the defaults for new users never seem to change
> (except the Vector skin recently) and maybe we could learn something from
> these stats.

Translatewiki has an extension for user option statistics. [1] I recently asked
for it to be enabled on a Wikimedia project, but it hit the review barrier. [2]


[1] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:UserOptionStats
[2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25302



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Re: preferences statistics

Andrew Garrett-4
In reply to this post by Antoine Musso-3
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Ashar Voultoiz <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 01/11/10 08:47, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
>> Are there statistics about users' preferences on Wikimedia sites?
>>
>> For example, a statistic that would say things like how many users use every
>> skin and how many users have "Show preview before edit box" disabled.
>>
>> Correct me if i'm wrong, but the defaults for new users never seem to change
>> (except the Vector skin recently) and maybe we could learn something from
>> these stats.
>
> Hello,
>
> I have wrote one a few years ago which might suit your needs. It is in
> the maintenance directory and would need a shell access to run:
>
>    maintenance/userOptions.php --usage
>
> On my development Wiki the output is:
>
>   Usage for <ccmeonemails> (default: '0'):
>    1 user(s): '1'

If you wrote it before I rewrote the preferences system in 2009, then
it is out of date.

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Re: preferences statistics

Antoine Musso-3
On 02/11/10 15:03, Andrew Garrett wrote:
<snip>
> If you wrote it before I rewrote the preferences system in 2009, then
> it is out of date.

Since it use the internal abstraction layer, I would expect it to still
be working.

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Re: preferences statistics

K. Peachey
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On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Are there statistics about users' preferences on Wikimedia sites?
>
> For example, a statistic that would say things like how many users use every
> skin and how many users have "Show preview before edit box" disabled.
>
> Correct me if i'm wrong, but the defaults for new users never seem to change
> (except the Vector skin recently) and maybe we could learn something from
> these stats.
Yes, we d{o/id} record some stats for the UI updates, you just need to
find someone willing to grab it since there is no friendly interface
for it.
-Peachey

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Re: preferences statistics

Chad
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On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
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> Are there statistics about users' preferences on Wikimedia sites?
>

Not really.

> For example, a statistic that would say things like how many users use every
> skin and how many users have "Show preview before edit box" disabled.
>
> Correct me if i'm wrong, but the defaults for new users never seem to change
> (except the Vector skin recently) and maybe we could learn something from
> these stats.
>

Preferences stats are cool. And since Roan finished converting everyone out
of the old user_options column and into the user_props table, it makes it a w
hole lot easier to measure these things.

So we can do things like change defaults.

Or even better, remove crappy preferences that most nobody uses \o/

-Chad

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Re: preferences statistics

Andrew Garrett-4
In reply to this post by Antoine Musso-3
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Ashar Voultoiz <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 02/11/10 15:03, Andrew Garrett wrote:
> <snip>
>> If you wrote it before I rewrote the preferences system in 2009, then
>> it is out of date.
>
> Since it use the internal abstraction layer, I would expect it to still
> be working.

Ah, then it will probably be hopelessly inefficient. You should just
use a query like this:

SELECT up_property,up_value,count(*) FROM user_properties GROUP BY
up_property,up_value;

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