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Daniel Zahn-2
Phabricator users,

this is to let you know that the "aphlict" service has been disabled on
Phabricator (for now) because it caused stability issues.

This means you will not get realtime (pop-up) notifications on Phabricator.
(If you had those enabled in the first place).

Regular notifications (that do not pop-up) and emails are not affected by
this.

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238593

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Re: realtime notifications disabled in Phabricator

Sebastian Berlin
Is that also the reason why tasks don't update in realtime on the
workboards anymore? I for one thought that was a great addition.

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 22:38, Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Phabricator users,
>
> this is to let you know that the "aphlict" service has been disabled on
> Phabricator (for now) because it caused stability issues.
>
> This means you will not get realtime (pop-up) notifications on Phabricator.
> (If you had those enabled in the first place).
>
> Regular notifications (that do not pop-up) and emails are not affected by
> this.
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238593
>
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Re: realtime notifications disabled in Phabricator

Daniel Zahn-2
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sebastian Berlin <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Is that also the reason why tasks don't update in realtime on the
> workboards anymore?
>

If you mean tasks moving from column to column in workboards, no that is
unrelated and done by the
Phabricator maintenance bot by Amir Sarabadani, afaik.

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Re: realtime notifications disabled in Phabricator

David Barratt
I think they mean that if you have the board open and someone else moves a
task, it will update on your end in realtime.

I imagine this *would* be affected by the change.

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:28 PM Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sebastian Berlin <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Is that also the reason why tasks don't update in realtime on the
> > workboards anymore?
> >
>
> If you mean tasks moving from column to column in workboards, no that is
> unrelated and done by the
> Phabricator maintenance bot by Amir Sarabadani, afaik.
>
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Re: realtime notifications disabled in Phabricator

Daniel Zahn-2
Ah. Yes, this sounds like the relatively new feature from:

https://secure.phabricator.com/T13357
https://secure.phabricator.com/T4900

It is affected then.

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:30 PM David Barratt <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I think they mean that if you have the board open and someone else moves a
> task, it will update on your end in realtime.
>
> I imagine this *would* be affected by the change.
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:28 PM Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sebastian Berlin <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > Is that also the reason why tasks don't update in realtime on the
> > > workboards anymore?
> > >
> >
> > If you mean tasks moving from column to column in workboards, no that is
> > unrelated and done by the
> > Phabricator maintenance bot by Amir Sarabadani, afaik.
> >
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Sebastian Berlin
Yes, that was the feature I was referring to. It's very nice to have when
planning using workboards, especially when it's done remotely.

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 02:11, Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ah. Yes, this sounds like the relatively new feature from:
>
> https://secure.phabricator.com/T13357
> https://secure.phabricator.com/T4900
>
> It is affected then.
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:30 PM David Barratt <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I think they mean that if you have the board open and someone else moves
> a
> > task, it will update on your end in realtime.
> >
> > I imagine this *would* be affected by the change.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:28 PM Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sebastian Berlin <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is that also the reason why tasks don't update in realtime on the
> > > > workboards anymore?
> > > >
> > >
> > > If you mean tasks moving from column to column in workboards, no that
> is
> > > unrelated and done by the
> > > Phabricator maintenance bot by Amir Sarabadani, afaik.
> > >
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> > > Operations Engineer
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Re: realtime notifications disabled in Phabricator

Daniel Kinzler-3
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While I don't care much about the "this task was updated" popups, I do miss the
immediate updates of workboards. It enables two use cases previously missing:

* have a board open in a tab to keep track on progress, without the need to
reload every time you look at it

* work on a board with multiple people remotely, with everyone having an up to
date view of the board, avoiding interference and confusion. This was REALLY
helpful.

Can we get this back, please?

Am 26.11.19 um 02:10 schrieb Daniel Zahn:

> Ah. Yes, this sounds like the relatively new feature from:
>
> https://secure.phabricator.com/T13357
> https://secure.phabricator.com/T4900
>
> It is affected then.
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:30 PM David Barratt <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> I think they mean that if you have the board open and someone else moves a
>> task, it will update on your end in realtime.
>>
>> I imagine this *would* be affected by the change.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:28 PM Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sebastian Berlin <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is that also the reason why tasks don't update in realtime on the
>>>> workboards anymore?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you mean tasks moving from column to column in workboards, no that is
>>> unrelated and done by the
>>> Phabricator maintenance bot by Amir Sarabadani, afaik.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Operations Engineer
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Re: realtime notifications disabled in Phabricator

Trey Jones
>
> * work on a board with multiple people remotely, with everyone having an
> up to date view of the board, avoiding interference and confusion. This was
> REALLY helpful.


This use case is very valuable for our remote team as well. We got confused
and interfered with each other during sprint planning just yesterday
because we forgot this feature was disabled. It has been much easier to
collectively update the workboards since it was introduced; we'd love to
have it back.

Trey Jones
Sr. Software Engineer, Search Platform
Wikimedia Foundation
UTC-5 / EST


On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:38 AM Daniel Kinzler <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> While I don't care much about the "this task was updated" popups, I do
> miss the
> immediate updates of workboards. It enables two use cases previously
> missing:
>
> * have a board open in a tab to keep track on progress, without the need to
> reload every time you look at it
>
> * work on a board with multiple people remotely, with everyone having an
> up to
> date view of the board, avoiding interference and confusion. This was
> REALLY
> helpful.
>
> Can we get this back, please?
>
> Am 26.11.19 um 02:10 schrieb Daniel Zahn:
> > Ah. Yes, this sounds like the relatively new feature from:
> >
> > https://secure.phabricator.com/T13357
> > https://secure.phabricator.com/T4900
> >
> > It is affected then.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:30 PM David Barratt <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I think they mean that if you have the board open and someone else
> moves a
> >> task, it will update on your end in realtime.
> >>
> >> I imagine this *would* be affected by the change.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:28 PM Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sebastian Berlin <
> >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Is that also the reason why tasks don't update in realtime on the
> >>>> workboards anymore?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> If you mean tasks moving from column to column in workboards, no that
> is
> >>> unrelated and done by the
> >>> Phabricator maintenance bot by Amir Sarabadani, afaik.
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >
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Daniel Zahn-2
You voices have been heard. We'll have a meeting next week to talk about
how to reactivate it.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:50 AM Trey Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

> * work on a board with multiple people remotely, with everyone having an
>> up to date view of the board, avoiding interference and confusion. This was
>> REALLY helpful.
>
>
> This use case is very valuable for our remote team as well. We got
> confused and interfered with each other during sprint planning just
> yesterday because we forgot this feature was disabled. It has been much
> easier to collectively update the workboards since it was introduced; we'd
> love to have it back.
>
> Trey Jones
> Sr. Software Engineer, Search Platform
> Wikimedia Foundation
> UTC-5 / EST
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:38 AM Daniel Kinzler <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> While I don't care much about the "this task was updated" popups, I do
>> miss the
>> immediate updates of workboards. It enables two use cases previously
>> missing:
>>
>> * have a board open in a tab to keep track on progress, without the need
>> to
>> reload every time you look at it
>>
>> * work on a board with multiple people remotely, with everyone having an
>> up to
>> date view of the board, avoiding interference and confusion. This was
>> REALLY
>> helpful.
>>
>> Can we get this back, please?
>>
>> Am 26.11.19 um 02:10 schrieb Daniel Zahn:
>> > Ah. Yes, this sounds like the relatively new feature from:
>> >
>> > https://secure.phabricator.com/T13357
>> > https://secure.phabricator.com/T4900
>> >
>> > It is affected then.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:30 PM David Barratt <[hidden email]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think they mean that if you have the board open and someone else
>> moves a
>> >> task, it will update on your end in realtime.
>> >>
>> >> I imagine this *would* be affected by the change.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:28 PM Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 11:21 AM Sebastian Berlin <
>> >>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Is that also the reason why tasks don't update in realtime on the
>> >>>> workboards anymore?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> If you mean tasks moving from column to column in workboards, no that
>> is
>> >>> unrelated and done by the
>> >>> Phabricator maintenance bot by Amir Sarabadani, afaik.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Daniel Zahn <[hidden email]>
>> >>> Operations Engineer
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>> >
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Daniel Kinzler-3
Am 28.11.19 um 02:50 schrieb Daniel Zahn:
> You voices have been heard. We'll have a meeting next week to talk about
> how to reactivate it.

Thank you!

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Re: realtime notifications disabled in Phabricator

Deb Tankersley
Thanks, Daniel Z! I also found it quite a useful feature! :)


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> Am 28.11.19 um 02:50 schrieb Daniel Zahn:
> > You voices have been heard. We'll have a meeting next week to talk about
> > how to reactivate it.
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> Thank you!
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That's great news! Thanks!

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> Am 28.11.19 um 02:50 schrieb Daniel Zahn:
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> Thank you!
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