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test.wikipedia.org

Tim Starling
After a long period of absence, test.wikipedia.org has returned. Unlike the
old test.wikipedia.org, it is running essentially the same code as the rest
of the Wikimedia wikis. The difference is that it uses the copy from NFS
rather than the synced copy on the local apache hard drives, which means
that we can more easily test for errors in the Wikimedia environment before
we take the final step and do a sync. Hopefully this will reduce the number
of transient PHP errors seen on the site, which are most often due to
differences between the developer's test environment and the Wikimedia
environment.

The rather cynical protected warning on the main page is my doing, I want to
have at least one goatse-free page on the wiki so that I can test the code
in peace.

-- Tim Starling

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Request for new feature

Ilario Valdelli
How I can submit a request for a new feature?

It could be nice if a administrator (or also a user) can set a flag to
decide to receive a confirmation of modification to an article watched.

It could be also nice if in this e-mail there is the difference between
the new article and the old.

En effect it is very difficult to follow all watched articles most of
all if the user works during the day. The vandalic acts are easy to
indentify, but changes with "wrong informations" requires time to
control these informations. With an helpful e-mail an user can control
and verify informations when he's the convenient time.

I think that this feature is not implemented yet, but Wikipedia is
frequently tried by "misleading benchmarks", this feature can easily
helps administrators and users.

Ilario
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Re: Request for new feature

Rob Church
To fill out a feature request:

1. Go to http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org
2. Create an account or log in
3. Click "Enter a new bug"
4. Set the bug's priority as normal
5. Set the bug's severity as enhancement
6. Provide a useful summary and description of the requested functionality
7. Hit Save/Commit


Rob Church

On 13/01/06, Ilario Valdelli <[hidden email]> wrote:

> How I can submit a request for a new feature?
>
> It could be nice if a administrator (or also a user) can set a flag to
> decide to receive a confirmation of modification to an article watched.
>
> It could be also nice if in this e-mail there is the difference between
> the new article and the old.
>
> En effect it is very difficult to follow all watched articles most of
> all if the user works during the day. The vandalic acts are easy to
> indentify, but changes with "wrong informations" requires time to
> control these informations. With an helpful e-mail an user can control
> and verify informations when he's the convenient time.
>
> I think that this feature is not implemented yet, but Wikipedia is
> frequently tried by "misleading benchmarks", this feature can easily
> helps administrators and users.
>
> Ilario
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Re: Request for new feature

Greg Sabino Mullane
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> It could be also nice if in this e-mail there is the
> difference between the new article and the old.

I've already written something like this. Check out:

http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4323

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Re: test.wikipedia.org

M. Williamson
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A proposal:

How about moving test-wikipedias to test:? It seems more appropriate
and less permanent.

Mark

On 13/01/06, Tim Starling <[hidden email]> wrote:

> After a long period of absence, test.wikipedia.org has returned. Unlike the
> old test.wikipedia.org, it is running essentially the same code as the rest
> of the Wikimedia wikis. The difference is that it uses the copy from NFS
> rather than the synced copy on the local apache hard drives, which means
> that we can more easily test for errors in the Wikimedia environment before
> we take the final step and do a sync. Hopefully this will reduce the number
> of transient PHP errors seen on the site, which are most often due to
> differences between the developer's test environment and the Wikimedia
> environment.
>
> The rather cynical protected warning on the main page is my doing, I want to
> have at least one goatse-free page on the wiki so that I can test the code
> in peace.
>
> -- Tim Starling
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikitech-l mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
>


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Re: test.wikipedia.org

M. Williamson
Actually, based on content from web.archive.org, it looks as if
somebody might've started an Old Norse testwiki on the old test:. Is
that content saved anywhere, or was it just cleared? I remember I had
a few humourous pages there of my own...

Mark

On 14/01/06, Mark Williamson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> A proposal:
>
> How about moving test-wikipedias to test:? It seems more appropriate
> and less permanent.
>
> Mark
>
> On 13/01/06, Tim Starling <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > After a long period of absence, test.wikipedia.org has returned. Unlike the
> > old test.wikipedia.org, it is running essentially the same code as the rest
> > of the Wikimedia wikis. The difference is that it uses the copy from NFS
> > rather than the synced copy on the local apache hard drives, which means
> > that we can more easily test for errors in the Wikimedia environment before
> > we take the final step and do a sync. Hopefully this will reduce the number
> > of transient PHP errors seen on the site, which are most often due to
> > differences between the developer's test environment and the Wikimedia
> > environment.
> >
> > The rather cynical protected warning on the main page is my doing, I want to
> > have at least one goatse-free page on the wiki so that I can test the code
> > in peace.
> >
> > -- Tim Starling
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > [hidden email]
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
> >
>
>
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>


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Re: test.wikipedia.org

Brion Vibber
Mark Williamson wrote:
> Actually, based on content from web.archive.org, it looks as if
> somebody might've started an Old Norse testwiki on the old test:. Is
> that content saved anywhere, or was it just cleared? I remember I had
> a few humourous pages there of my own...

Gone, dead, buried. Sorry.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)


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Re: test.wikipedia.org

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On 1/14/06, Brion Vibber <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Mark Williamson wrote:
> > Actually, based on content from web.archive.org, it looks as if
> > somebody might've started an Old Norse testwiki on the old test:. Is
> > that content saved anywhere, or was it just cleared? I remember I had
> > a few humourous pages there of my own...
>
> Gone, dead, buried. Sorry.

Tim made a backup of it before he dropped it, it's in his ~

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Re: test.wikipedia.org

M. Williamson
It is? Where can we download his ~?

Mark

On 14/01/06, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 1/14/06, Brion Vibber <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Mark Williamson wrote:
> > > Actually, based on content from web.archive.org, it looks as if
> > > somebody might've started an Old Norse testwiki on the old test:. Is
> > > that content saved anywhere, or was it just cleared? I remember I had
> > > a few humourous pages there of my own...
> >
> > Gone, dead, buried. Sorry.
>
> Tim made a backup of it before he dropped it, it's in his ~
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Re: test.wikipedia.org

Bugzilla from rowan.collins@gmail.com
On 15/01/06, Mark Williamson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It is? Where can we download his ~?

For some reason, I'm having to try hard not to make childish jokes
here; sorry, too tired.

anyway, as Brion said:
> > > Gone, dead, buried. Sorry.

What I actually wanted to point out was the message on the old
testwiki front page:
"EVERYTHING ON THIS WIKI WILL BE ERASED WHEN THE WIKI IS REINITIALIZED."
This seemed like a perfectly good policy, and the idea of actually
trying to use a wiki specifically designed as a trap for instability
is frankly rather silly.

If a wiki is needed for test *content*, that's a separate issue,
though it rather opens up a can of worms regarding most of the other
content of meta, if you ask me...

[Obviously, if people ignored this advice and created content on that
wiki, and there *is* a dump somewhere, that's lucky for them, and it
should probably be retrieved]

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Re: test.wikipedia.org

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
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On 1/15/06, Mark Williamson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It is? Where can we download his ~?

I set up a copy of the old testwiki at
http://avar.lir.dk/mw/testwiki/wiki/Main_Page

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