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Naveen Francis
Can we have page wikipedia.org.in which have links to indian language ?



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Re: wikipedia.org.in

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Gwtting a Parked domain...

2010/1/14 Naveen Francis <[hidden email]>
Can we have page wikipedia.org.in which have links to indian language ?



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Re: wikipedia.org.in

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On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Can we have page wikipedia.org.in which have links to indian language ?
>

If that is possible, it would be a great idea!

It could be like the portals of Switzerland <http://wikipedia.ch>,
Germany <http://wikipedia.de/>, and the Netherlands
<http://wikipedia.nl/>.

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

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List of indian language wikipedia

Assamese  http://as.wikipedia.org
Bengali       http://bn.wikipedia.org
Gujarati      http://gu.wikipedia.org
Hindi          http://hi.wikipedia.org
Kannada    http://kn.wikipedia.org/
Kashmiri     http://ks.wikipedia.org
Malayalam  http://ml.wikipedia.org
Marathi       http://mr.wikipedia.org
Oriya          http://or.wikipedia.org
Punjabi       http://pa.wikipedia.org
Sanskrit      http://sa.wikipedia.org
Sindhi         http://sd.wikipedia.org
Tamil          http://ta.wikipedia.org
Telugu       http://te.wikipedia.org
Urdu          http://ur.wikipedia.org


2010/1/17 Casey Brown <[hidden email]>
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Can we have page wikipedia.org.in which have links to indian language ?
>

If that is possible, it would be a great idea!

It could be like the portals of Switzerland <http://wikipedia.ch>,
Germany <http://wikipedia.de/>, and the Netherlands
<http://wikipedia.nl/>.

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

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Wikipedia.org.in Whois Record
 
Registrant Name:anjan  bhushan
Registrant Organization:-
Registrant Street1:7 Tulip dr., Apt# 1g
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:fords
Registrant State/Province:NJ
Registrant Postal Code:08863
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.8482035774
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.8482035774
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant [hidden email]

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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
List of indian language wikipedia

Assamese  http://as.wikipedia.org
Bengali       http://bn.wikipedia.org
Gujarati      http://gu.wikipedia.org
Hindi          http://hi.wikipedia.org
Kannada    http://kn.wikipedia.org/
Kashmiri     http://ks.wikipedia.org
Malayalam  http://ml.wikipedia.org
Marathi       http://mr.wikipedia.org
Oriya          http://or.wikipedia.org
Punjabi       http://pa.wikipedia.org
Sanskrit      http://sa.wikipedia.org
Sindhi         http://sd.wikipedia.org
Tamil          http://ta.wikipedia.org
Telugu       http://te.wikipedia.org
Urdu          http://ur.wikipedia.org


2010/1/17 Casey Brown <[hidden email]>

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Can we have page wikipedia.org.in which have links to indian language ?
>

If that is possible, it would be a great idea!

It could be like the portals of Switzerland <http://wikipedia.ch>,
Germany <http://wikipedia.de/>, and the Netherlands
<http://wikipedia.nl/>.

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Naveen Francis
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Or we must wait till 16-Feb-2010 06:55:57 UTC ??
For wikipedia.in ?? :)

Domain ID:D511303-AFIN
Domain Name:WIKIPEDIA.IN
Created On:16-Feb-2005 06:55:57 UTC
Last Updated On:20-Mar-2009 05:59:38 UTC
Expiration Date:16-Feb-2010 06:55:57 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. Ltd. dba PublicDomainRegistry.com (R5-AFIN)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:DI_7704610
Registrant Name:Jitendra Jain
Registrant Organization:N/a
Registrant Street1:Shop No 6, Acharya Smriti, Opp adarsh Lodge
Registrant Street2:Near Basant Cinema, chembur
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:MUMBAI
Registrant State/Province:Maharashtra
Registrant Postal Code:400074
Registrant Country:IN
Registrant Phone:+091.9324384265
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[hidden email]
Admin ID:DI_7704610
Admin Name:Jitendra Jain
Admin Organization:N/a
Admin Street1:Shop No 6, Acharya Smriti, Opp adarsh Lodge
Admin Street2:Near Basant Cinema, chembur
Admin Street3:
Admin City:MUMBAI
Admin State/Province:Maharashtra
Admin Postal Code:400074
Admin Country:IN
Admin Phone:+091.9324384265
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[hidden email]
Tech ID:DI_7704610
Tech Name:Jitendra Jain
Tech Organization:N/a
Tech Street1:Shop No 6, Acharya Smriti, Opp adarsh Lodge
Tech Street2:Near Basant Cinema, chembur
Tech Street3:
Tech City:MUMBAI
Tech State/Province:Maharashtra
Tech Postal Code:400074
Tech Country:IN
Tech Phone:+091.9324384265
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[hidden email]
Name Server:NS1.EPARANOIDS.COM
Name Server:NS2.EPARANOIDS.COM


2010/1/18 Naveen Francis <[hidden email]>
List of indian language wikipedia

Assamese  http://as.wikipedia.org
Bengali       http://bn.wikipedia.org
Gujarati      http://gu.wikipedia.org
Hindi          http://hi.wikipedia.org
Kannada    http://kn.wikipedia.org/
Kashmiri     http://ks.wikipedia.org
Malayalam  http://ml.wikipedia.org
Marathi       http://mr.wikipedia.org
Oriya          http://or.wikipedia.org
Punjabi       http://pa.wikipedia.org
Sanskrit      http://sa.wikipedia.org
Sindhi         http://sd.wikipedia.org
Tamil          http://ta.wikipedia.org
Telugu       http://te.wikipedia.org
Urdu          http://ur.wikipedia.org


2010/1/17 Casey Brown <[hidden email]>

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Can we have page wikipedia.org.in which have links to indian language ?
>

If that is possible, it would be a great idea!

It could be like the portals of Switzerland <http://wikipedia.ch>,
Germany <http://wikipedia.de/>, and the Netherlands
<http://wikipedia.nl/>.

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Casey Brown-5
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> List of indian language wikipedia
[snip]

It looks like there's a Nepali Wikipedia <http://ne.wikipedia.org> too.

It might a good idea to list the "test Wikipedias" on Incubator so
that people can contribute to their developing Wikipedia project too:
* Bodo: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/brx>
* Dogri: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/dgo>
* Konkani: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/gom>
* Maithili: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/mai>
* Meitei: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/mni>
* Santali: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/sat>

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jyothis Edathoot <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wikipedia.org.in Whois Record

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Or we must wait till 16-Feb-2010 06:55:57 UTC ??
> For wikipedia.in ?? :)
>
> Domain ID:D511303-AFIN
> Domain Name:WIKIPEDIA.IN

Hmmm.  Well, you guys could try to e-mail the people who own the
domains and ask them if they'd consider transferring ownership to the
Wikimedia Foundation.  If they say no or don't respond, we could try
to see if the Foundation could talk INRegistry.

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Jyothis Edathoot
Casey,
 
Wouldnt it be a better approach to have some one from the foundation/ authorized to contact them directly to acquire that?

Regards,
Jyothis.

http://www.Jyothis.net

http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis

woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Casey Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> List of indian language wikipedia
[snip]

It looks like there's a Nepali Wikipedia <http://ne.wikipedia.org> too.

It might a good idea to list the "test Wikipedias" on Incubator so
that people can contribute to their developing Wikipedia project too:
* Bodo: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/brx>
* Dogri: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/dgo>
* Konkani: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/gom>
* Maithili: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/mai>
* Meitei: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/mni>
* Santali: <http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/sat>

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jyothis Edathoot <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wikipedia.org.in Whois Record

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Or we must wait till 16-Feb-2010 06:55:57 UTC ??
> For wikipedia.in ?? :)
>
> Domain ID:D511303-AFIN
> Domain Name:WIKIPEDIA.IN

Hmmm.  Well, you guys could try to e-mail the people who own the
domains and ask them if they'd consider transferring ownership to the
Wikimedia Foundation.  If they say no or don't respond, we could try
to see if the Foundation could talk INRegistry.

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Casey Brown-5
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Jyothis Edathoot <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wouldnt it be a better approach to have some one from the foundation/
> authorized to contact them directly to acquire that?

I just asked Mike about this.  He said that informal discussions with
the owners (by you guys) would be a good first step and then, if that
doesn't work, to talk to the registrar (INRegistry).
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INRegistry>

If none of that works, *then* we would have to see if the Foundation
could do anything (they might not be able to).

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Jyothis Edathoot
Ok, I will email both of them and see how that goes.

Regards,
Jyothis.

http://www.Jyothis.net

http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis

woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
lines to go before I press sleep

completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings



On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Casey Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Jyothis Edathoot <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Wouldnt it be a better approach to have some one from the foundation/
> authorized to contact them directly to acquire that?

I just asked Mike about this.  He said that informal discussions with
the owners (by you guys) would be a good first step and then, if that
doesn't work, to talk to the registrar (INRegistry).
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INRegistry>

If none of that works, *then* we would have to see if the Foundation
could do anything (they might not be able to).

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Arun Ramarathnam
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Naveen and all,

There may be more on this list.

I could notice Bishnupriya Manipuri missing here.

bpy.wikipedia.org

Regards
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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Naveen Francis
Yes Arun, .... the above list is not complete.
Need to find all indian language wikipedias  :)

2010/1/18 <[hidden email]>
Naveen and all,

There may be more on this list.

I could notice Bishnupriya Manipuri missing here.

bpy.wikipedia.org

Regards
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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Naveen Francis
Hi  All,

I have called Jitendra over the mobile.
He is interested in making wikipedia.in  as homepage for indian language wikipedias.
But his condition is that his name must be there in that page. Is it possible for us to give the credit on that page ?

Naveen Francis

2010/1/18 Naveen Francis <[hidden email]>
Yes Arun, .... the above list is not complete.
Need to find all indian language wikipedias  :)

2010/1/18 <[hidden email]>

Naveen and all,

There may be more on this list.

I could notice Bishnupriya Manipuri missing here.

bpy.wikipedia.org

Regards
Arun

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Arun Ramarathnam
Hi Francis,

Please inform him that it is not a fair request.

His holding the domain name of a registered global entity is tantmount to cyber squatting.

Let us see how he reacts then.

We could possibly take legal help from the foundation towards addressing this. CIS team may also be able to advise us here.

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Casey Brown-5
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Naveen Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> But his condition is that his name must be there in that page. Is it
> possible for us to give the credit on that page ?
>

Uhhh ?  Why would his name be on there, because he registered the
domain first?  It doesn't make sense to me...

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Jyothis Edathoot
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Guys,

I believe that the name wikipedia is owned by foundation. If that is the case, Foundation can officially request the InRegistrar to revoke the domain from him.

Casey, Please correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,
Jyothis.

http://www.Jyothis.net

http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis

woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
lines to go before I press sleep

completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings



On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:29 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Francis,

Please inform him that it is not a fair request.

His holding the domain name of a registered global entity is tantmount to cyber squatting.

Let us see how he reacts then.

We could possibly take legal help from the foundation towards addressing this. CIS team may also be able to advise us here.

Regards
Arun
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Casey Brown-5
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Jyothis Edathoot <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I believe that the name wikipedia is owned by foundation. If that is the
> case, Foundation can officially request the InRegistrar to revoke the domain
> from him.
> Casey, Please correct me if I am wrong.

From what Mike told me, it depends on how India works with foreign
trademarks, domain names, etc.  It's hard for the Foundation to get
involved until there's some kind of organization or chapter setup in
India.  It gets a lot more complex if the Foundation has to come in,
which is why it's best to work informally with the registrar/owners
first.

Maybe you guys could try asking InRegistrar about this and see how far
that goes?  Maybe they already have a process setup for this.

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

TT Arvind
Casey Brown wrote:

> From what Mike told me, it depends on how India works with foreign
> trademarks, domain names, etc.  It's hard for the Foundation to get
> involved until there's some kind of organization or chapter setup in
> India.  It gets a lot more complex if the Foundation has to come in,
> which is why it's best to work informally with the registrar/owners
> first.
>
> Maybe you guys could try asking InRegistrar about this and see how far
> that goes?  Maybe they already have a process setup for this.

They have a published dispute resolution policy:

http://www.registry.in/.IN%20Domain%20Name%20Dispute%20Resolution%20Policy%20(INDRP)

The relevant clauses are 4 & 6, possibly 7.  Is Wikipedia registered as
a trademark in India?  Reading clause 4, I'm not sure anyone except the
holder of a trademark will be able to challenge a registration.  Have a
look at the decisions they've put up on the website.  They complainant
seems to have an Indian trademark or to have applied for one in most cases:

http://www.registry.in/Dispute%20Case%20Decisions

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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Shiju Alex
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I don't think http://wikipedia.in/ is registered by any one. Kindly verify.


But, do we actullay require this site? What is its purpose?  Is it just for listing link to Indic languages wikis.



NOTE: Some Indic languages like Tamil, Bengali, and Urdu are the official languages in more than one country.

Shiju



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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Jyothis Edathoot <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I believe that the name wikipedia is owned by foundation. If that is the
> case, Foundation can officially request the InRegistrar to revoke the domain
> from him.
> Casey, Please correct me if I am wrong.

From what Mike told me, it depends on how India works with foreign
trademarks, domain names, etc.  It's hard for the Foundation to get
involved until there's some kind of organization or chapter setup in
India.  It gets a lot more complex if the Foundation has to come in,
which is why it's best to work informally with the registrar/owners
first.

Maybe you guys could try asking InRegistrar about this and see how far
that goes?  Maybe they already have a process setup for this.

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Casey Brown
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Re: wikipedia.org.in

Naveen Francis
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Hi all,

He is not interested in donating in the domain name.
We need a fair deal, since he has spent money on that.
He wants us to sent a proposal to him.

Can we make a list of domain names ask 'in registry' to release to wikimedia ?

Thanks,
Naveen Francis


2010/1/18 TT Arvind <[hidden email]>
Casey Brown wrote:

> From what Mike told me, it depends on how India works with foreign
> trademarks, domain names, etc.  It's hard for the Foundation to get
> involved until there's some kind of organization or chapter setup in
> India.  It gets a lot more complex if the Foundation has to come in,
> which is why it's best to work informally with the registrar/owners
> first.
>
> Maybe you guys could try asking InRegistrar about this and see how far
> that goes?  Maybe they already have a process setup for this.

They have a published dispute resolution policy:

http://www.registry.in/.IN%20Domain%20Name%20Dispute%20Resolution%20Policy%20(INDRP)

The relevant clauses are 4 & 6, possibly 7.  Is Wikipedia registered as
a trademark in India?  Reading clause 4, I'm not sure anyone except the
holder of a trademark will be able to challenge a registration.  Have a
look at the decisions they've put up on the website.  They complainant
seems to have an Indian trademark or to have applied for one in most cases:

http://www.registry.in/Dispute%20Case%20Decisions

regards,

Arvind

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